this post was submitted on 29 Jan 2025
105 points (97.3% liked)

Asklemmy

45342 readers
955 users here now

A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions

Search asklemmy ๐Ÿ”

If your post meets the following criteria, it's welcome here!

  1. Open-ended question
  2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions. Assume best intent and be excellent to each other.
  3. Not regarding using or support for Lemmy: context, see the list of support communities and tools for finding communities below
  4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members
  5. An actual topic of discussion

Looking for support?

Looking for a community?

~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Greetings!

A friend of mine wants to be more secure and private in light of recent events in the USA.

They originally told me they were going to use telegram, in which I explained how Telegram is considered compromised, and Signal is far more secure to use.

But they want more detailed explanations then what I provided verbally. Please help me explain things better to them! โœจ

I am going to forward this thread to them, so they can see all your responses! And if you can, please cite!

Thank you! โœจ

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[โ€“] dessalines@lemmy.ml 17 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (29 children)

I can't speak about telegram, but signal is absolutely not secure to use. Its a US-based service (that must adhere to NSLs), and requires phone numbers (meaning your real identity in the US).

Matrix, XMPP, or SimpleX are all decentralized, and don't require US hosting.

[โ€“] doomsdayrs@lemmy.ml 11 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (6 children)

Thank you for your post!

I want you to know your effort and knowledge is appreciated, this will help future readers make better decisions.โœจ

But the situation stands that my friend and their friends are not as technologically literate as we are, and I would rather have them on something easy and secured than unsecured at all, especially from my experience with getting communities to use such decentralized platforms you mentioned.

[โ€“] dessalines@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 weeks ago (5 children)

Matrix is no more difficult to sign up on than signal, and they don't forward your information to the US government.

[โ€“] doomsdayrs@lemmy.ml 17 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

I am not uneducated in this matter, I run Matrix instances and have dabbled in development of tools around it.

Perhaps our experience is different, but I have had great difficulty in helping groups on the ground to use Matrix.

Regardless of our agreement that Matrix is better than Signal, it should not cloud our judgement in at least reducing the harm that is Telegram.

In the future we can keep joining hands to work towards a better future, but for now I hope you can understand my perspective and choice.

load more comments (4 replies)
load more comments (4 replies)
load more comments (26 replies)