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What are the reasons to use Signal over Telegram (lemmy.ml)

submitted 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Greetings!

A friend of mine wants to be more secure and private in light of recent events in the USA.

They originally told me they were going to use telegram, in which I explained how Telegram is considered compromised, and Signal is far more secure to use.

But they want more detailed explanations then what I provided verbally. Please help me explain things better to them! ✨

I am going to forward this thread to them, so they can see all your responses! And if you can, please cite!

Thank you! ✨

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Thank you for your post!

I want you to know your effort and knowledge is appreciated, this will help future readers make better decisions.✨

But the situation stands that my friend and their friends are not as technologically literate as we are, and I would rather have them on something easy and secured than unsecured at all, especially from my experience with getting communities to use such decentralized platforms you mentioned.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Matrix is no more difficult to sign up on than signal, and they don't forward your information to the US government.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I am not uneducated in this matter, I run Matrix instances and have dabbled in development of tools around it.

Perhaps our experience is different, but I have had great difficulty in helping groups on the ground to use Matrix.

Regardless of our agreement that Matrix is better than Signal, it should not cloud our judgement in at least reducing the harm that is Telegram.

In the future we can keep joining hands to work towards a better future, but for now I hope you can understand my perspective and choice.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Matrix is centralized around Matrix.org or servers they run tho. Since the protocol is a big data/metadata sync by design & medium–large-sized servers are expensive to run, almost all of metadata is with Matrix.org—of which was originally funded my Israeli intelligence & I wouldn’t be surprised if they were getting data out of it to this day.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Further, they're hosted in Germany, so they must still follow German law and court requests.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How is setting up e2e on matrix these days?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 23 hours ago

On by default, and just works.