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If that's true, the comment being downvoted like this is... interested. On Lemmy, you're either a Nazi killer or lover, which is interesting since 99.999999% of people here have never killed anyone, let alone a Nazi. We can say fuck Nazis but also say that murder is wrong.
No, he is right. The only people 'cosplaying' Nazis are Nazis. If you are an actor on stage or film cast to play a Nazi then you are doing your job. If you don a SS pin and a swastika armband you are a fascist and actively advertising yourself as a threat to those around you (unless they look like you). This is "hate speech" which means that it is "free speech" and thus should be protected from government interference. It, on the other hand, can also fall under "fighting words" which are not protected. It all depends on context. In the context of a fascist wannabe dictator taking office who is openly promoting violence against minorities and showing blatant support of white supremacist groups like proud boys and KKK, it falls under the latter. It is also speech that removes ones self from the social contracts of "tolerance", "compassion", and "safety". Just like any contract, the privileges and protections are only afforded to those who are a party to the contract. If someone goes out in a Nazi 'cosplay' and gets gunned down, beaten, savaged, spat on, or verbally assaulted they have no room to complain since they wore "speech" that said "I support or intend to do harm to those in my community and I am a threat."
You're literally making it up as you go. You have no clue what someone advocates for, but it sounds like people need to pass your own personal test else you think you should get to murder them in cold blood then try to make up a reason afterwards. Do you Nazi that you're the Nazi?
Nazism refers to a school of political beliefs. It's not some vague unknowable thing, a Nazi is perfectly capable of advocating for Nazism using speech and symbolism. So don't pretend they have no clue what a Nazi advocates.
No, killing a Nazi does not make someone "the Nazi". It would be nice if you didn't trivialize atrocities like the Holocaust.
Thank you. All of these things are actually very well defined. Nazism, Fascism, Authoritarianism. These are not words that are just thrown around haphazardly and have no meaning. The ones who DO use them inappropriately are those whom they describe. It is a concerted effort to redefine or undefine them so there is no longer a word to describe them.
Eh, I can't quite agree with "very well defined". Even Nazism isn't really internally coherent, it's surprisingly nonsensical, let alone all the variants of fascism straying so far from classical fascism.
But that's me nitpicking academically. Fascist organizations are crystal clear about their association, beliefs and what they want. When they heil or wear neo-Nazi symbols in a political context, there's no longer any need to doubt.
Absolutely. Nazis have been made very aware that most communities reject them on sight and so wolf-whistling and pathetic attempts of plausible deniability are used to pretend they're just 'regular' patriotic nationalists (see: Musk salute, and this related salute overseas a few weeks earlier). But even then, these are paper thin attempts. "You're the real nazis!" "Oh everyone's a nazi these days!" "Actually they were a specific party at a specific place at a specific time!", you just gotta laugh.