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I'm down. I moderate for a few other subs so I have experience with the sort of fediverse jank that mods have to deal with, and I have a LOT of free time at my job so I'm on Lemmy a lot. I'm also transfem / NB so this is a matter that impacts me directly.
Full disclosure: I'm on record saying I disagree with the Lemmy Blahaj Zone admin's mod actions in the other LBZ sub I moderate, but I think in subs like this it's more than appropriate to have extremely low tolerance. So I'll be a much harsher mod than I am in 196.
There you go, you're all set.
Welcome to the Team.
Hello,
Be aware that ~~the reports don't federate, so people modding from non local accounts won't get reports.~~ the usual recommendation is to use local accounts do moderate, as remote accounts resolves of reports do not federate to the community host instance.
Edit: don't always federate
I've already told @[email protected] that this is not the issue, and I've demonstrated to him that he's wrong.
Unfortunately, the federation issue isn't that simple. If it were, I would've submitted another LBZ application a long time ago. I'm unclear what exactly causes the problem, or if it's even one thing causing it...but what I do know is that even if you have a LBZ account, you won't get a complete list of reports because some of them don't federate properly.
SDF was the most reliable place to see a complete list, but they blocked LBZ and kbin today, so that really throws a wrench in things.... Qaz was the one who figured all this out, so when it's closer to morning time in his country I'll have to shoot him a message and find out what the next best place is.
In the meantime, I have an alt on lemm.ee that seems to catch most of what my LW account misses (@A_[email protected]). I can add it as a mod if you want.
Well...
Report federation used to work. I appointed several mods from other instances back then. The issue seemed to have appeared in May 2024 (https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/4701).
The issue has been closed last week (https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/4744), and the fix still has to be released.
The issue you linked applies to a version of Lemmy that neither LW or LBZ use. Or any instance, as far as I'm aware.
Again, looking at the modlog is all it takes to demonstrate that you're mistaken. We are actively resolving reports on our remote accounts.
This other issue was also opened in May: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/4744
I don't want to go through the update timelines of LW and LBZ, but on [email protected], LW admins still state that
https://lemmy.world/post/24616352?scrollToComments=true
I had a look at the modlog, it works in this case indeed ( https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/modlog/2942?page=1&actionType=All&modId=115895 ). I am not saying it never works. I am saying that there are known cases where it does not, which is why the LW admins recommend people to use local accounts. Maybe in this case it's because the report was from a LBJ account for a LBJ community?
I also posted about in 19 days ago on [email protected]: https://lemmy.world/post/24576402 . Other mods and admins reported other actions that would not federate. Nobody contradicted the fact that it could be working sometimes.
The consensus recommendation is just to use local accounts while we wait for the fix to be released. It's just easier than to try to figure out what works and what does not, in which conditions, etc.
Maybe not currently, but that is what you have been saying.
No.
There are federation issues with reports, but it's not as simple as you've been saying, and having a local account doesn't solve it. There's a reason Qaz has several alts modded at 196 outside of LBZ. He needs them because there are several reports that don't federate with LBZ, LW, or lemm.ee.
IIRC Qaz has mentioned it in the LBZ mod channel in Matrix at least once. If they didn't hear it from him, it should be obvious something's up when Ada tells them there are unresolved reports and their mod queue is empty.
If you feel it should be shouted from the rooftops, then nobody is stopping you.
Yeah I actually had no idea that resolving reports didn't federate either. The situation is definately worse than I thought, but hopefully they'll fix it soon. Thank you (and Qaz) for looking into it.
Honestly, I appreciate the effort you put into looking into it, but we could've saved a lot of effort and time if you had looked at the modlog like I suggested 3 weeks ago. Or, idk, trusted that I wasn't lying to you?? Or, I know you have like 4 alts, too, so you also could have just tested it yourself before spreading misinfo to new mods.
It wasn't harmful misinfo, but it's misinfo nonetheless and I'm not gonna lie, it's annoying that it took this much work to correct you. Especially after your antagonistic behavior in the past. And especially especially after I've already demonstrated to you that the problem as you presented it was wrong, and (if Martineski wasn't mistaken) at least one other person also told you you were wrong.
I agree with Martineski: Going forward, accurately convey the problem and inform people that it'll be fixed in Lemmy v1.
The issue as you were presenting it was just wrong. Plain and simple. If you're not going to own it, that's your prerogative.
Me and Qaz both have told you now that having a local account doesn't solve the issue. You need several alts, local and remote.
They can recommend whatever they want. Doesn't change the fact that local alts have the same issue, and you need several.
I'm not making any argument other than to counter your claim that reports don't federate at all. That's misinformation. Which you seem to understand now, so why you're still arguing is beyond me.
He already told you, but okay
I was curious so I had a look:
A mod (probably from lemm.ee, but not sure as you can't see which mod this it without being a mod on the lemm.ee modlog) indeed removed it in lemm.ee if people look at the user modlog: https://lemm.ee/modlog?userId=126228
But the post is still up on LBZ: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/21242663/12597647
And it doesn't show up in the LBZ modlog:
It also doesn't show up on the 196 community log on lemm.ee:
You are welcome. Thank you a lot for your posts on Reddit, I try to relay them on [email protected], you definitely make a difference!