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Hey everyone. On privacy I generally recognize a lot of people, most are good. But occasionally I encounter someone who I've seen say horrible shit. This is about one:

Mainly they've said some incredibly racist shit, including about my race >:(. Of course I'd ban them, but they said all of this outside the community. I feel it's odd to ban people I don't like for their behavior outside the community.

I've gone pretty lax modding, only banning if you said really shitty stuff only on my community. But I don't want to build a community filled with these types of people.

I also don't want the community to have a bad reputation of banning people I don't like but this guys a known racist.

I'm feeling very conflicted, can anyone help?

I am working on rebuilding one of my communities. Originally it was a small fanfiction thing but as I have another fan related domain I decided to make this one a Dark Fiction site and community.

Thing is that Dark Fiction can get... Dark.

So while I am working on the ideas and which software to use for community, I need to figure out what is allowed for rules and discussion.

Obviously moderation would need to be far more lax than say Mastodon.art or anything from Europe. You can't start banning everyone who talks about dark topics if they follow that topic to its darker logical conclusion.

Obviously Harrassment, KYS statements, Actual Racism, and a few other things should be banned. But discussion of how a racists bigoted character might address something shouldn't be.

I live in the US so 1st Amendment is pretty open ended.

Figured I would put this out to discuss cause it is such a disconnect between what most people would generally expect from an instance due to the subject matter.

For those of us here for awhile, there's a good chance we've adjusted our settings and built up blocklists that distance us from new people's experience of these sites, so we gotta remember and work the Defaults.

One example of this is the sorting method. Most Lemmy instances stay with the default Active sort, which means the posts that many are seeing are those being voted on a bunch and receiving comments.

What this means for those trying to build communities is partly what one may already have thought of, make posts that inspire discussion, but another part that one may fumble, which is to reply to whatever comments that may appear.

This may be a little part to why some communities struggle to get others involved. Posts may be getting upvoted, but without any comments they may not be as widely seen or gain as much traction as they otherwise could with the way Active sort works.

Interestingly Mbin and Piefed appear to default to Hot for their sorting method, which if it's like Lemmy's Hot sort, may be a little more helpful in surfacing some communities' posts.

That's just one example though, what other Default details do you try to keep in mind as you try to get communities going?

Tl,dr: use a local account for moderation.

Hello everyone,

Just a quick reminder on the moderated federation topic: due to some bugs on Lemmy, reports won't federate to mod accounts on other instances (https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/4744). Even if they do (it works sometimes), closing them from a remote instance won't federate back to the instance where the community is located, staying in the admins' reports backlog.

From personal experience, some other actions like appoint another mod, pin/unpin threads do not work either.

While this stays an issue, please use local accounts to moderate.

That's all, see you around.

Hello everyone,

Following this post, it seems that quite a few users can't see catbox.moe pictures.

Catbox was my preferred option as they have a handy Firefox extension that allows to upload pictures with just a click, and get the link directly in the clipboard.

My understanding was also that by having the pictures on catbox, we avoided storing copies of pictures on every Lemmy instance. Is this still the case? I read a bit about proxying pictures (https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/pull/4035) and it seems like this is more related to keep all media required by an instance locally, to avoid broken links.

So long story short: what should be the recommended way to share pictures on Lemmy?

1. Use a hoster like https://imgbb.com/
2. Upload pictures locally

I was trying to explain federated websites to a friend and she asked if there is a federated dating app. She recently went through a break up and the apps are dreadful as I'm sure many of you know.

It'd be hard to launch a dating system on the fediverse because it the type of service that relies heavily on network effects. People want to be on the dating app with the most people. However, I think there is an opportunity because the mainstream apps are so notoriously awful, monetized, and enshitified.

It could be a community within an existing network or it could be its own website. I don't know, I'm just putting the idea out there.

Hi all. So I made:

[email protected]

The thinking is that there isn't a good home for non-political US news on Lemmy. There are three obvious communities, but one is on lemmy.world, one is defederated from lemmy.world, and one is on an instance that I find just slightly off-putting.

My questions are two:

• Is this useful? I assume I'm not the only one who feels like this is needed.
• How do people feel about a news+politics community, versus a strictly non-political news community? There are plenty of good places for US politics. I could go either way, but personally I tend to like the news+politics combination, and I think a lot of the big news in the US for the next few years is going to be political.

Let me know your thoughts, have a good weekend.

Edit: [email protected] is now under active moderation!

Follow of this previous thread: https://lemm.ee/post/34088759

At the time we thought that [email protected] could be it, but after thinking about it again I always feel like having generalist communities on a country-based instance seems counterintuitive. What if at some point Canadians want to discuss specific privacy laws or measures? Also other people tend to think that this community is for Canadians only.

As I guess the main objective is to offer an alternative to [email protected] , there are basically two options

1. Use [email protected] , but that's another community on LW
2. Create an alternative community on a generalist instance like lemmy.zip

About [email protected] , the instance still seems unmanaged (https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/we-re-giving-lemmy-a-try-welcome-to-privacyguides-lemmy-one-x-post/12734/7). There was a mod action 22 days ago, so I guess it's still somehow moderated. Trust level still seems low due to the non communication of the admin on [email protected]

You can do this with /api/v3/community/hide, or in the database by setting community.hidden. Unfortunately this is not available from lemmy-ui yet.

From a comment by nutomic: https://lemmy.ml/comment/16090216

Context: https://lemmy.ca/comment/13891923

Not sure if that feature was known to everyone, so sharing this as its own post.

Communities in Lemmy/Mbin are not federated by default. So when you create a new community, it will only be available to your instance. At least 1 person from all other instances must follow it in order to make it available. This tool does that. It follows your community from all remote instances until at least 1 other person follows it.

Hello everyone,

Thinking about this as the on-boarding experience on Lemmy can be subpar, especially because new joiners have to

• find a list of communities they could like (something like this post https://feddit.org/post/6554534, but should be there as a default)
• browse All and stumble upon all the news, political and tech that we know (https://lemmy.world/?dataType=Post&sort=TopDay)

In order to avoid this, what would you think of having a "new joiners" instance, where

• hexbear, lemmygrad and ml would be defederated
• politics and news communities would be blocked at the instance level

That could help to onboard people, so that the first time they look around, they see more gardening, cute comics and casual conversation rather than another set of depressing memes.

Disclaimer: politics and societal issues are important and should be discussed extensively (they are quite popular on Lemmy, let's be honest). I'm not advocating to hide them all, just to not show them as the first content people potentially interested in Lemmy would see.

If a niche community has people that persistently downvote every post

1. is that healthy for the community?
2. is that healthy for lemmy in general?

Examples that come to mind are political communities, linus tech tips, diet communities, etc. There will be a group of people who will not make comments, posts, but will strictly downvote everything that is in the community.

This is a continuation of a discussion @[email protected] and I started elsewhere, but it deserves it's own space for meta-moderation discussion.

I try to be mindful of my Lemmy image/persona since I try to be supportive and educational here. I don't have a problem with sharing my personal beliefs, but I try to keep it constructive and not too judgemental.

I've spent a lot of time cultivating the community where I spend most of my time posting content to, and I like all the comments people share on a daily basis because it's a positivity oriented community.

Between things in real life and fighting feelings of burn out here, it's been a bit tougher to stay motivated. One thing I've been noticing more lately, and I'm not sure how to deal with it, and I'm curious how you all deal with it.

If you have regular commenters that you like in your community, but you see them being kinda shitty in other communities, does that affect you?

I know there are stressful things going on just about everywhere, but it's tough when I see people I look to for positivity in return for my work having bad takes or saying things that make me feel less happy about them.

The broadest recent example is probably the Luigi/United Healthcare assassination. Without getting into a whole thing, I don't support it the way many have expressed here, but I can empathize with the reasoning behind why Luigi has broad support. But I see people I like saying what I feel are pretty hateful things, and I'm having a hard time separating what they show me of themselves in our positive space with what I'm seeing of them in the general Lemmyverse.

I don't know if I should just ignore it, but I don't feel there Is really any ideal way to discuss too much as I don't want to alienate people from my content. I don't use any alta as that just seems like too much work, but now I kind of want to avoid people a little bit.

Just curious if any of you go through anything similar and to see how you deal with it.

Hey fellow Lemmings,

I'm thrilled to announce the launch of AI News Summary Bot, a project that brings you News summary! The bot is now live on our community at [email protected].

The bot is still in its early stages, and I'm excited to hear your feedback and suggestions on how to improve it. Feel free to share your thoughts and ideas.

Repository: If you're interested in contributing or exploring the code behind the bot, you can find the repository at https://github.com/muntedcrocodile/ai_news_bot.

Donations: If you're interested in donating to allow me to spend more time developing please do: monero:8916FjDhEqXJqX9Koec9WaZ4QBQAa6sgW6XhQhXSjYWpQiWB42GsggEh73YAFGF86GU2gEE1TTRdWSspuMgpWGkiPHkgBTX

Stay informed, and let's build this community together!

Need Moderator because I am leaving Lemmy for IDK how much time.

• ~~[email protected]~~
• [email protected]
• [email protected]

Also, if you have doubts about brigading, Discuit have a brigading post on their meta community: https://discuit.net/DiscuitMeta/post/pTyw2MZw

Edit: as you can see, the post has been deleted

Let me know if this is appropriate for this community.

I've been collecting links to post, blog, article, comment, etc that criticize the fediverse, whether it's about the specific apps or fediverse in general, whether it's about the technical aspect or about the social aspect.

If you also found one, feel free to share it here.

(date format is YYYY-MM-DD)

2024

• https://lemmy.world/post/11519703 - Lemmy is a bigger echo chamber than reddit, 2024-02-03
• https://lemmy.world/post/11720592 - Lemmy users lack nuace and it stops actual discussion., 2024-02-08
• https://lemmy.world/post/12352000 - Lemmy is not immune to trolls, bad fait actors or propaganda - in fact, despite how bad reddit is, a lot of Lemmy instances are worse, 2024-02-24
• https://wedistribute.org/2024/02/tear-down-walls-not-bridges/ - Tear Down Walls, and Build Bridges, 2024-02-13
• https://wedistribute.org/2024/03/contentnation-mastodons-toxicity/ - Content Nation Backlash Highlights Mastodon’s Toxicity, 2024-03-02
• https://reddit.com/r/fediverse/comments/1b76cbo/fediverse_is_not_so_good/ - Fediverse is not so good..., 2024-03-05
• https://kevquirk.com/blog/linux-elitism-again - Linux Elitism...Again, 2024-04-14
• https://www.reddit.com/r/Mastodon/comments/1g1g844/why_is_mastodon_struggling_to_survive - Why is Mastodon struggling to survive?, 2024-10-12
• https://lemmy.world/post/19004972 - Lemmy wouldn't really takeoff to replace Reddit until it's content is search indexable, 2024-08-24
• https://evergreenfiles.com/blogs/the-fediverse-desperately-needs-sustainable-file-hosting - The Fediverse Desperately Needs Sustainable File Hosting, 2024-11-04
• https://lemmy.world/post/22316287 - I really want to like Lemmy, 2024-11-22
• https://bsky.app/profile/techconnectify.bsky.social/post/3lbs4ihb2gs24 - Technology Connection's thread on Bluesky about Mastodon being a ghost town and more, 2024-11-26
• https://transfem.social/notes/a16rvjhkk34b00tf - [...] if you are explaining the fediverse to a non-tech person, "it's like email" is not a sufficient explanyation., 2024-11-30

2023

• https://pawb.social/post/42756 - "Tanky" and the perception of Lemmy., 2023-06-14
• https://erinkissane.com/mastodon-is-easy-and-fun-except-when-it-isnt - Mastodon Is Easy and Fun Except When It Isn’t - Erin Kissane's small internet website, 2023-07
• https://lemm.ee/post/873456 - I miss reddit, 2023-07-09
• https://www.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/16zq1dd/the_lemmyverse_aint_all_its_cracked_up_to_be/ - The Lemmyverse ain't all it's cracked up to be, 2023-10-04

I noticed today an occurence of a user complaining about Lemmy being worse then Reddit. The modlogs shows how toxic they are. When this was pointed out, the user deletes their account

https://web.archive.org/web/20241217101003/https://sopuli.xyz/post/20276017?scrollToComments=true

Deleted account: https://kbin.melroy.org/u/Pyrin

This seems to address the question that comes up once in a while "a public modlog is only useful for mods" (https://feddit.org/post/4920887/3235141), while we can see from this example that it can also be useful for toxic users.

As you may know, [email protected] is a community dedicated to calling out power tripping mods.

Should we consider having a similar community for toxic users?

There is already [email protected], but I feel like the "lore" is more about large-scale events (like the cats wave recently) than specific users events.

Edit: Updated the title, and put the emphasis on creating a community to call out toxic users rather than "dunking" on the users that was banned.

[email protected], [email protected]

That's probably the good news of the day for me.

I had a bit heated exchange with Serinus, one of the LW mods yesterday: https://feddit.org/post/5619797/3605420

In the end they agreed to lock [email protected]

Hopefully this will help with the activity of the community!

I've recently started trying to revitalize a niche community ([email protected]) that had been silent for a year or so, simply by posting more content. I have been made a moderator by the instance owners (so I could do any cleaning/maintenance if that was needed).

I have been posting for almost a month and got my very first new post, by another user than me I mean, in the last 24h. That was so effing cool! And it also was real good content for our niche.

That said, I still want to post more stuff.

And I would like to also renew the old banner and icon which I think is meh. I even made a mock-up I wanted to put online and then see if members liked it. That's when I started worrying it might be a very stupid idea.

I don't want members to feel like I'm taking hold of anything. My sole objective is to encourage more people to post more, and to help make the community as welcoming and alive as I can. But by doing too much I'm afraid I would only make members feel I'm making it 'mine'.

Instead of doing that, I considered asking all members their opinion about renewing the banner, and invite them to submit their own propositions. But, here again, I'm worrying:

1. They could feel bombarded by my too many posts and/or intimidated by my invitation to participate.
2. And then, if we were to organize some friendly competition, how would I (and why me?) pick the winning proposition? By a vote? Sure, but then I'm afraid people would encourage their friends to vote for them which would not be fair to people with fewer friends.

So, here I am. A bit naive and afraid I could do more arm than good.

What do you think? Do I worry too much?

Do you have any practical suggestion? Should I post less? Should I give up on that banner idea? (I really think a new and less serious banner could help but it's also not an obsession, so...)