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It's Gross And Cringey To Love A State Like Israel Or The USA (www.caitlinjohnst.one)
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People who love and defend a government are creating parental figures out of the state instead of growing up and taking their stand as mature individuals.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Hmm I clicked some link and I thought I saw some apologia about China but now I can't find it. It does seem to be mainly criticism of the US and Israel which is always fair game considering current circumstances.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (4 children)

[China] simply do the normal thing while we do the freakish thing: they make the lives of their citizens better and better and avoid unnecessary wars, while western governments make the lives of their citizens worse 

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

As an American its a strange and uncomfortable to ponder that maybe China was/is not as bad as I always categorized it as since Tienanmin. More research definitely needed.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

they make the lives of their citizens better and better and avoid unnecessary wars

That's an oversimplification of the truth, not defending authoritarianism. It's not denying or minimizing China's actions in Xinjiang or '89. It's not praising the censorship or arbitrary detention.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

Finally the end of the matryoshka doll.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Yeah I think that was the one, it's not love but I'd call it apologia.

To me it's so much weirder to spend energy defending a distant authoritarian government that you have no connection to whatsoever than your own. Both are stupid, but people are indoctrinated to be sycophants for their own authoritarian government so I kinda get it even though I wish it was otherwise.