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Hi all,

I have a Moto G Stylus 5G. I acquired it as part of a Lot. Since it's in great condition I decided to make use of it. One of the first things it did was upgrade from Android 13 to 14. Well, some of my essential apps can't run on 14 so how can I undo the upgrade? I just want to roll back to 13, or alternatively, install the stock 13 via recovery etc.

This would really be of immense use to me. Thanks.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

Generally speaking this is not reversible. Many phones specifically blow fuses in the device to make sure that attempts to downgrade will fail for security reasons. They don’t want someone stealing the phone and somehow tricking it into downgrading in order to extract its content using a security vulnerability that existed in an earlier version.

With that said, if you can get your hands on the ROM Or at least one of the version you require, you could unlock the device and flash whatever you want. You may not be able to re-lock the boot loader however for the aforementioned reason. If you can that would be a device-specific thing.

It looks like older stock firmwares are available online by unofficial sources. You can decide if you trust those enough to attempt to downgrade.

Reference: https://xdaforums.com/t/guide-bootloader-unlock-for-moto-g-stylus-5g-2023.4620535/

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Side comment, I find it more ... interesting? (concerning?) they have "essential apps can't run on 14" which to me is sort of a red flag event for those apps. $0.02 we're up to 15 mainline with 16 coming soon, relying on apps stuck back on 13 never updated would not work for my conscious.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Many phones specifically blow fuses in the device to make sure that attempts to downgrade will fail for security reasons.

This generally isn't true for the OS, you can almost always flash a lower version.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Yes, I thought this a bit ridiculous I've put a variety of ROMs on dozens of different models. There's no self-destruct booby trap st the hardware level. Many are difficult some are impossible to flash, but nothing will break itself. That would be a suicidal business decision.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

Pixel 6 is one such a device that does this. I replied with a link to a different comment, but not reproducing here to avoid the perception of spamming links.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Thank you! I'll see what's available on XDA and def. will check the link you posted. Motorola is great with unlocking bootloader. Aside from one or two models that were prepay and not eligible for unlock they've provided the codes for all units I've tried so far. Should be OK.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I’d recommend you consider if you actually need to re-lock the boot loader. It’s a great way to turn a device into a brick. There are a few apps that don’t work with an unlocked boot loader but most will be fine. My bank for example is really annoying and complains. There is a risk that if you try to lock the boot loader after a downgrade your device may simply not start anymore and you’ll lose access to be able to flash or unlock the boot loader again.

It’s not supposed to get stuck like that, but I’m telling you from personal experience that not all vendors are great about handling this situation. Most people never attempt to install third-party firmware, and you’re not really supposed to be able to downgrade.

Good luck!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah I don’t have any intention or need to keep a locked bootloader.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Many phones specifically blow fuses in the device to make sure that attempts to downgrade will fail for security reasons.

I think you are mixing e-fuses (Samsung) and tamper-evident storage (Pixel). First one is used to lock Knox after rooting, second one to prevent downgrades.