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A community/support group for chronically ill people. While anyone is welcome, our number one priority is keeping this a safe space for chronically ill people.
This is a support group, not a place for people to spout their opinions on disability.
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Be excellent to each other
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Absolutely no ableism. This includes harmful stereotypes: lazy/freeloaders etc
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No quackery. Does an up-to date major review in a big journal or a major government guideline come to the conclusion you’re claiming is fact? No? Then don’t claim it’s fact. This applies to potential treatments and disease mechanisms.
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No denialism or minimisation This applies challenges faced by chronically ill people.
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No psychosomatising psychosomatisation is a tool used by insurance companies and governments to blame physical illnesses on mental problems, and thereby saving money by not paying benefits. There is no concrete proof psychosomatic or functional disease exists with the vast majority of historical diagnoses turning out to be biomedical illnesses medicine has not discovered yet. Psychosomatics is rooted in misogyny, and consisted up until very recently of blaming women’s health complaints on “hysteria”.
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... who the fuck's talking about 'every able-bodied person' here?
That's like saying the concept of racism is bigoted against people who have a race.
Ableism is just the prejudice expressed by disregarding disabled individuals and groups.
... do you not know what a 'narrative' is?
This is not about an individual disabled person.
This is about disabled people being weaponized against each other by those who wish to dismiss that disability is not just a spectrum, but also a legitimate limitation for many.
To simplify:
Say two people, who are cousins, have a migraine disorder. Cousin 1 has migraines 25 days/month. Cousin 2 has migraines 15 days/month. Both are effectively disabled.
Cousin 2 is able to live a “normal-ish” life and can hold down a part time job, manage their triggers and their medications work consistently. Cousin 1 can’t work because they have unpredictable triggers and medication works maybe 1/3 of the time.
Aunt to both cousins says to cousin 1, “Cousin 2 has migraines and doesn’t make it an excuse! You’re just being lazy and don’t want a job.”
That line, by Aunt, is ableism. Cousin 2 is not ableist, but unfortunately gets used as a concept to bludgeon disabled people who “act disabled” instead of being treated as an individual person.
It becomes ableism when it’s weaponized.
... uh, no.