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To me, something like this might be a great help as the economy hits a downturn and people look to tighten purse strings. While there would be some guilt, tips are “optional”, and adjustable, so if money is tight I’m sorry but the percentage is going down. Ideally I never would have eaten out at all but if I did…
Ok, so I guess I’m also a little salty about tipping culture in general, how it has changed to a passive aggressive percentage system that now tries to push high values at the register instead of actual like, token of appreciation tips.
Listen, I can drop a bill on the table if it was good service, but now that things are so often percentage based…wether I got the burger or the steak did not change the level of service you provided, yet my expected tip has doubled with the meal price? And bringing the tip down to the value I have free is now an “insult” at “only” x percent?
I personally have taken to avoiding services that “require” tremendous tips, and the guilt that the tip makes up 90% of a persons pay rather than being a treat on top like it used to be has only emboldened that decision.
I hear the argument that tipped workers can actually walk away with much more than average wage after tips on a good night. Is this common or a happy outlier? I also hear they can get royally screwed on a bad night.
And now that we so often have the tips included in our receipts, part of digital payments instead of cash on the table, how much are they actually getting it vs the house keeping most of it or it being averaged out to the cooks and managers?
Then begets the argument, shouldn’t the cooks get a tip? They put significant labor into the food prep that the waiter delivered, but we tip the waiter only if we leave cash…
And so I hate tips and may be a little biased. I think we absolutely should be paying people wages, and tips should be token gifts granted for exceptional services or from charitable people with money to burn.
Where I live tips are optional and given as a thanks for good service, and often calculated by rounding up the bill to a whole number instead of calculating a percentage.
Waiters still make a liveable wage without them here, though it can still happen that on a good night they get more from tips than from their wage.
I have a family member who works as a waiter, and there they collect the tips together and share them equally amongst the staff working in the restaurant at the end of the shift. So in this restaurant, the cooks do benefit from it as well. Though there is no legal framework for this so not even restaurant does this.