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I'm seeing this play out on the Hasan Piker side of things, and it's outrageous but also completely hilarious that Ethan will not have a conversation with Hasan or Sam Seder about Gaza. The propaganda of the State of Israel, and plain old sunk cost fallacy has left him paralyzed as a liberal. I hope he doesn't stay in that place for the rest of his days because it's destructive, but some people have to bottom out before they can come up for air. I just hope that means all the hate and trouble both sides of the American political divide give him doesn't lead to anything drastic.
There is nothing healthy about Hasans coverage of this. He is completely audience captured and will say the most unhinged things. Also, he lies non-stop and the fact he has a platform this big is really sad
Hasan is absolutely not audience captured. He sticks to his morals, and does not change his views to suit his audience. He whips them into shape instead, and has conversations/debates with those in his community that disagree with him in order to get them to see his side of things.
Hasan has barely covered this Ethan shit in the past year and a half! Instead, Hasan has been covering news that actually matters like the peril of the Palestinian peoples and Trump's lunacy in public office. Ethan is the unhealthy one, as can be seen by all of the subscribers he's lost over the last year and a half, and the responses his dwindled audience leaves on the H3H3 subreddit pushing to leave the Hasan drama alone.
Ethan is confused and is falling into a very toxic trap. He's cozying up to a liberal content creator that has sexually harassed multiple women in the past, and is currently undergoing a suit for using revenge porn to get women to submit to him. These are not the kinds of people I would want a progressive advocate like Ethan to hang around.
Also, Hasan does not lie. He uses facts and statistics. He spends a lot of time combating the lies of Trump and his party, and of the Democrats because they are not so pure as people think.
Hasan only has a platform because of the Twitch subscribers that give him their money on a monthly basis. He does not grift to the right by accepting money from corporate donors or benefitting from the conservative-laced algorithms on modern day social media platforms. He is a leftist, and with those views in today's age, almost everyone on the political spectrum is against him. It is not sad that he's gotten this big. He saw 300k+ people watch his stream on the night of the 2024 US General Election. Hasan has built up his community over many years by being honest, staying true to his values, and not budging when it comes to external influences trying to silence him. I find Hasan quite inspirational in this way.
What's sad is the state of the American government, the conservatives that are destroying it, the liberals that are allowing it to happen, the absolute void of American class consciousness, and yes the poor, pathetic attempts by Ethan Klein to try to smear Hasan when Ethan's the one with skeletons in his closet.
Hasan doesn't lie?? Really?? Look, it's not intentional, like malicious lies but holy hell is the man uniformed on... Everything. Yet he speaks with so much confidence. He repeats so many Russia talking points when covering Ukraine (not to even mention that time he outright said Russia had a right to invade Ukraine). Or that time he called the jdam hitting a hospital in Gaza killing 500 people only for it to turn out to be a misfired rocket hitting a parking lot. But he's so confident. All the time. Give me a fucking break. Not to mention his toxic community and fans (Frogan) saying the most despicable shit ever. They are not healthy people and it's all a big performative joke.
There are hours of YouTube videos disproving Hasan lies. And no, before you jump to hit reply, it's not "clipped out of context". I've watched all the context.
Also, the guy doesn't do debates any more because he's a whiny loser who cries because he can't spend five minutes to do the most basic of basic research before forming an opinion.
There are WAY better leftie content to follow on YT/Twitch. Start with Loner Box maybe. Anyone really.
Hasan has since said he was wrong on that point, and has since retracted said opinion and instead argued for the sovereignty of Ukraine as any other nation state, including Palestine. He reiterates this at least on a weekly basis to correct people like you that show up in the chat of his Twitch channel.
The fact that you're using this example as a way to discredit Hasan however is demonstrative of how emotional you're approaching this situation and how little you've done your own research to double check your views over time.
If you're talking about the Al-Ahli Arab Hospital explosion, then the jury's still out on exactly what happened. Neither Israel, Hamas, nor the PIJ have provided visual evidence of what may have caused the hospital explosion. We won't know what happened unless an independent organization like the UN can go there (and be safe to do their investigation, although Israel has broken this accord many times now). It also appears that the main missile people claim caused the hospital explosion has been debunked.
Have you asked Hasan recently what he thinks on the matter: to double check and/or correct your views? Do you acknowledge that early on in the Gaza War, things were messy, and what Hasan and other might have believed at one time could have changed as new evidence presents itself? Does your world view allow for progress, or are you a moral conservative that lives in some crystallisation of the past?
Because he has to protect himself and his community on an increasingly frequent basis due to him and his community being in the minority, and when it comes to people like you espousing caricatures and false perceptions of their opinions on the matter. Are you of a minority? Which one? Do you have your life exposed to the broader public on a daily basis, and are forced to stand your ground multiple times a day?
Are you referring to when Frogan and her Arabic friends did a tier list of who can say the word "Habibi" (Arabic for "my love") or not? And if they qualify, they get a "Habibi" pass? A concept called racial passing where members of a certain race wished to be seen as belonging to a different race, and to obtain that race's "pass"? And how they called the lowest tier "Sabra", in relation to the Israeli hummus company?
Sabra isn't the best hummus for starters. Some people refer to it as the McDonald's of hummus, where there are many better alternatives. The name Sabra refers to the Sabra and Shatila massacre in which IDF-backed forces killed 1-4k Palestinians and Lebanese people's. Many people and organizations have chosen to boycott Sabra because the company's holding company directly supports the IDF's military. I think it's fair to call the lowest tier of person to receive a Habibi pass Sabra because said company in part funds a genocide. This is akin to calling that person a Nazi.
Have you watched Ethan's content? Have you seen Ethan dismiss Hasan's requests to talk about their issues in real time? Because all Ethan does is try to clip Hasan out of context so he can get people less involved in the context of the situation to agree with him and come to his side.
Yeah Ethan's main video has been debunked.
If you did, you'd already have all of the answer to my above questions. But you retain old news because you don't keep us with Hasan's content, and likely insulate yourself in Ethan's echo chamber.
Every time Ethan has called Hasan out of asked Hasan to watch the video, Hasan has said that he'd be willing to do a live debate and get the facts straight. Ethan every time has been a coward and refused to talk to Hasan live. Oh, and Hasan does debate. All Ethan does is shrivel up in his bubble and hide.
No :)