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Ladies and gentlemen! It's true. Mozilla has finally done it.

Fortunately I have been dailying @zen_browser for the past 2 months and I recommend you do the same if you don't want to migrate to ChromeTech. Otherwise use @[email protected].

The fox is dead. Long live the fox.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

@[email protected] @[email protected] Simple solution: don't input or upload data to Firefox. If you need to sync bookmarks, use Floccus or Syncthing.

Disable search suggestions, AI, translation, etc. It's quite easy to avoid giving them data if you're willing to dive into the settings.

For the record, Brave takes even more work to disable that crap. I'm nearly certain Brave already has clauses like this. There's simply no way they could provide AI tools without them.

Fret not, @[email protected] is alive and well.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

It's better to use a different browser (at least for a few months), so it shows a little fall in their statistics.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

@[email protected] @[email protected] I haven't been able to find anything that bad in their TOS or Privacy Policy: https://brave.com/privacy/browser/

In fact, Brave's privacy policy is miles better than Firefox's, and I don't even like Brave that much.

Your suggestion to turn all that crap off is pointless. Of course you might be able to switch some toggles but the company's policy matters just like you wouldn't trust Google even though they provide even better toggles for "privacy control".

TLDR: no tracking by default

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

@[email protected] @[email protected] I'll have to do more digging on the legal docs.

My point isn't necessarily to disable everything. You need to understand which toggles actually have an effect. This info is widely known for Firefox (hence projects like arkenfox and Betterfox).

It is troubling to see this sort of wording in a Mozilla policy.

Nothing against Brave, btw. If you insist on sticking to Chromium, it's not a bad option. I'd just hate to see Firefox lose more users, as it's the only alt to Chromium.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

@notesnook Not sure if you're aware, but there's been a clarification added.
https://www.ghacks.net/2025/02/27/mozillas-new-terms-of-use-causes-confusion-among-firefox-users/

Again, I agree the wording is troubling. We'll have to see how this plays out. I feel like very little has changed, they've just updated their legal terms.

I, for one, won't be dropping @firefox. I already use Brave (and LibreFox and Cromite) as well for uncooperative websites and specific use cases.

If you're truly worried about this, I'd urge you to look into LibreFox or another fork.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

@[email protected] that makes sense, actually. They should have been more clear about this. Thanks for the link!

And I use Zen, a Firefox/Gecko derivative. I don't particularly like any of the Chromium forks out there including Brave but yeah.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

@[email protected] Heard really good things about Zen. Might have to give it a spin.

Love the work you're doing on Notesnook! Keep it up the great work! 🫶