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I wasn't fully convinced before that Putin has Trump in his pocket, but after that stunt, I am convinced that he is under Putin's thumb. Trump and co. could have had marching orders from Putin to do exactly that. Also, this is something that Putin have done and would do, publicly humiliating someone on live TV.

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[–] [email protected] 86 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'm on the minority that thinks this wasn't a stunt. I think Trump wanted to sign the deal and then fuck them over, letting Russia do whatever they wanted as long and the minerals flowed to US.

So what happened? Trump is just an egotistical imbecile with the people and political skills of a rabid raccoon. He and JD aren't used if being called on their BS ("I thought the rules were you weren't going to fact check") and just lost it.

Zelensky stood his ground and morals, and likely was smelling foul play already.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is exactly it.

Everyone in Trump's circle knows you don't discuss reality with him, and they warned Z not to. So when Z pointed out that Russia never respects ceasefire agreements, think skin snowflake lost his mind and botched the entire deal.

It's so obvious that he has no idea how negotiation works.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Trump is a bully, it's always been that simple... He doesn't negotiate, he uses his "wealth" and now has the power as president to do what he wants when he wants... It's why he loves tariffs so much.

And everyone saw what happens when you stay calm and logical against this moron...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

If you make Trump look bad in any way, he will destroy whatever he can.

You know, like a child.

[–] SplashJackson 2 points 1 day ago

I thought that was exactly the case, because it's obvious it is. If the majority of people don't understand that, well, perhaps the majority of people are intellectually-disabled.