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I had a discussion with a leftist - again, this is true - and told them about the famines in the Soviet Union and Maoist China. Said they'd have to independently verify that famines happened in socialist countries because it sounded like I was pushing a specific agenda.
Well you can always chat with the entire other school of thought for socialists: “Yeah, what you’re laying out about genocide is accurate. It was a FAMINE. That is what a Famine means. Now use that methodology to analyze the societal context and motivations of any other famine that doesn’t rely on testimonials from Nazis as the core of its evidence.”
My experience with ml users is they either deny it because this one book somewhere, or they say famines are good for the economy (yes, line goes up argument).
For context I'm European so extreme left already of any political patry in the US. As in "universal Healthcare and free education" radical.