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[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 hours ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Not yet, it lacks a lot of the features Signal has and does not even have a proper ipad ui yet, nor proper profile syncing between devices.

If it ever has these it might be useable by the masses, until then it'll be only the interest of privacy nerds.

Though really the most important thing is its lack of audits and a transparency report like Signal has. How can we be sure that its encryption/other security is up to standards or they don't hand over anything to cops/courts without these two things? These are what most messengers fail at, especially open source decentralised ones to be fair.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, it's a cool toy, but when I was picking a messenger to sell my SO on, Simplex failed my basic requirements:

  • works on phone, desktop and laptop (messages arrive everywhere reliably)

Signal passed, so we went with that.

Simplex is still rad though, and I want to try building something on top of the protocol. I'm working on a P2P Reddit/Lemmy, and Simplex could be rad for DMs or something.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I didn't personally have problems with reliability (same as for XMPP, Matrix however has broken for me a few times). As for multiple devices - I just use two, with identical names and profile pictures, one on laptop and one on phone.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

Yeah, Simplex is reliable. My point is that if I have a conversion with my SO on one device and want to continue on another, I can't really do that. So messages will come to one or another. When I tried it, they had a CLI tool to get that working, but that's not going to be acceptable for my SO.

So I went with Signal. It's easy for my SO to use and has strong privacy protections.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Indeed, but funded by VC which makes me uneasy about its future.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Huh, I missed that. From the announcement:

Also, funding the work to transition the protocols to non-profit governance model would not have been possible without the donations we received from the users.

Our pledge to our users is that SimpleX protocols are and will remain open, and in public domain, so anybody can build the future implementations of the clients and the servers. We are building SimpleX platform based on the same principles as email and web, but much more private and secure.

If they stay true to that, they're probably planning on building for-profit apps on top, while keeping the foundation free.

That sounds reasonable to me. Hopefully that happens.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Fair. I'll still be on watch, since venture capitalists are scum. Hopefully donations will eventually become stable enough for a revenue stream for them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

My concern is that they'd demand not just profit, but growth. But I wonder if they'd be able to go on by charging for commercial use - hosting servers, tech support, etc