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I notice you're not going after OP for his vague title with picture, but I'm fair game.
To make it abundantly clear (which you can infer from the other chart posted in the thread), the population change was mostly non-Latvians entering before the USSR splintered and leaving afterwards. I made a reference to habits in that region of wiping out locals and replacing them with ethnic "russians" to rebut the vague sarcastic "the decline was after the USSR splintered so communism=good" title.
Was that clear enough?
OP is just noting that "under communism" the population was increasing and aftetwards it was decreasing. And making a joke about some anticommunist orgs. Easy to understand for the intended audience. Happy to explain more if you don't understand.
Yes someone posted a graph from Wikipedia. It refers to ethnicity. And it does not discriminate between entering, leaving, or having children / dying, though a lot is likely migration.
This was your point? It seems like a pointless fact.
Oh? Is that what the graphs are showing? Tell me about the ethnic cleansing of Latvians from 1970-1990.
Or were you saying something that has nothing to do with either graphic? Are you confused about timelines or are you confused about events? It's one or the other.
Well I still don't see any coherent point so I'm going to go with no. You also ignored everything I said in my reply. So I think you should consider working on your communication skills.
And I was noting that the USSR had a tendency to shift their ethnic populations around to wipe out (still don't understand how you took that term to mean anything other than killing local populations, it's "wipe out" as in "erase") other local ethnic populations. We saw the numbers increase until the USSR splintered and then fall off because there was no longer a system to support that shifting of ethnic populations. This crowd should know about it unless they only believe in or talk about the beneficial parts of communism and ignore the ugly parts that regularly get implemented.
You still don't understand the difference between forced migration and mass killing? The latter can be a consequence of the former but it is not always. If you need me to explain the difference between moving to a different location versus dying I think there are even deeper issues in conceptualization that are preventing communication, here.
In the period of this graph? Like I've already suggested twice, tell me more about Latvia from the 1970s and on. I know the factual history re: migration in Latvia and what you are suggesting is, to put it simply, bullshit. This may be why I didn't understand your reference to something that didn't happen there - except by the Nazis, who got their shit kicked in by the Soviets, a fact for which reactionary Latvian nationalists never forgave them.
This is why you should try clearly stating your point. We are 4-5 commrnts deep and I guess you don't really have one outside of an ahistorical reference with no relevance to the graphic.
Here you are conflating ethnic Russians living in Latvia and ethnic cleansing. This is not a rational point and is again why you should try explicitly stating your ideas. You might notice that they do not make sense if you actually did so. You kind of already know this, right? It's why you don't respond to 90% of the things I say to you. I'm not stupid or obtuse, I am giving you opportunities to gracefully bail on what you might be implying with incomplete thoughts.
I keep asking you to specifically describe Latvian migration and just state your point clearly and you keep chickening out and trying to ignore those requests along with most of whay I say. Now you are trying to pretend I'm avoiding the reality of those things. I'm just waiting on you, bud.