Instead of trying to argue that most libertarians "aren't true libertarians," you'd be better off finding a different word to describe what you want to communicate.

I'm a firm-believer that libertarianism is a way to grift working class people who think they're better than other working class people.

[–] shorap@lemm.ee 10 points 2 days ago

Exactly. It reminds me of every libertarian that called into The Majority Report to debate Sam Seder over the years.

The callers would all say that they were the true libertarian and all the others weren't. Then as the debate went on they would spout the same shit as all the other libertarians.

[–] seeigel@feddit.org -2 points 2 days ago

To your believes: Welcome to the end of the Sovjet Union.

We are living in a consumer society because people want to be free without being free. Which interestingly allows 'libertarians' to exist because common workers don't want to be quotation-mark-free libertarians and defend their freedom.

I like how the development of the word makes your point. The word lost its meaning and became kind of an insult. How can the working class not be grifted when they lose the words to analyze their situation?

The problem with tyranny.gov is that the 'libertarians' of today will become the officers and ministers of tyranny.gov. So instead of calling them 'libertarians' we should call them something else or everything will stay the same just with new names.