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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

On the flipside, it's not illegal anywhere in capitalismland™ for the workers to own the means of production. It's called a cooperative. Get a bunch of your comrades together, sign a few legal documents, pool your money for a downpayment, get a loan. Badabing, badaboom, "communist" unicycle repair shop.

(The bank might however disagree with you that a unicycle repair shop is a viable business venture in most cities, but hey in my book that still beats a Central Planning Bureau telling you "Nyet, no-one needs unicycles, however we need you at the mines, glory to Arstotzka!").

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Agreed. Actually a capitalism with cooperatives is the flavor of capitalism that I support.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

I believe you should look up market socialism if that interests you.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

It works until a guy with too much money decides it must stops. That's the problem with capitalism: it basically recreates feudalism.

The biggest question is who gets the power. A dictatorial state or an oligarchy of capitalists is the same.

Liberalism won against USSR because they restrained themselves just long enough for USSR to collapse.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

On the flipside, it’s not illegal anywhere in capitalismland™

It's also not illegal in capitalismland™ to use economic chicanery to outcompete and either destroy or swallow any productive organization that doesn't sacrifice everything to the profit principle - which might explain why there is no need for it to make co-ops illegal.