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Nice write-up by Jeff.

Things are getting out of hand. It's time for a change. Only buy equipment with local access.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Even in my very high end Bosch ($1800 one), they removed buttons from their older version and put it into their revenue extraction cloud.

The exact same model from the previous year had a "half load button". The new one requires you to register with their cloud service and use the app.

So the app only appears to give more because they removed features from the previous version.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Removing buttons definitely sucks. In my case, its a built in dishwasher, so space is already limited for buttons, and all the ones I need are there. So the cloud is 100% value add. I'd hate it as well if the app was my only choice for a feature.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

But as I already explained, that's not true. They gave you the illusion of value add by removing features. Look at your exact model, built in, from 3 years ago. It has buttons for half load, delay and delicate. It's easier to push a button than find your phone and start the app. If your Internet is temporarily down, you don't have those features.

If the app was used for additional features, I'd agree. But they removed features to give the illusion of value add.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago

I think its a matter of perspective though. I have all the physical buttons I need, and even ones I dont need, so im happy. For you, yours doesn't have all the functions you need, so obviously your not happy.

Both versions have delay, but I did lose half load and delicate. Gained some other programs though, but those aren't useful. Funnily enough, neither version has a dedicated rinse.

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