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European IT/software development professionals, how realistic is it to expect a European Cloud company being able to offer a similar level of service and cost to AWS and Azure? (feddit.nl)

submitted 1 week ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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I've been working for a few years in the field. All the places I worked at were using those two, getting partnerships, certifications, etc.

The ranges of services they offer is quite crazy. Performance monitoring? Here's a tool. Certificate management? Here's a tool. DDoS protection? Here's a tool. All of them integrated and accessible via command line interface.

AWS and Azure built their expertise over decades, and have financial and technical resources that any European company can only dream of.

Those two platforms are just very good at what they do, it will probably be difficult for a European alternative to emerge. The financial investment would need to be substantial, and the European platform wouldn't probably reach maturity before a few years.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Thoughts?

Short term? Won't happen.

Long-term? Three things are required for any change to happen:

Teach people, aka the users, to redefine their expectations and demands. We won't get sovereign and on-par services any time soon. Heck, we don't even have a eu-made computer/smartphone to access it. We won't get a non-US Google-like panel of services either.
Teach people to get their fingers out of their ass and start to make do with what they (we will) have available. What's sure is that if the EU-USA relationships keep going where they're headed people won't have much choice anyway.
Tell the all-mighty EU institutions (as well as the various national ones) to shut the fuck up with their endless pooping of regulations, rules and laws that kills any attempt at innovating.

I was reading a French newspaper a couple days ago, the dude was explaining one of the EU objective, now faced with the fact that the USA are not our best friends anymore and faced with a lack of essential natural resources (100% of our lithium and rare earth as well as other key elements are imported), was to shorten the legal delay for opening a new mine from 10 years to 27 months. 10-fucking-years to just start digging a hole in the ground because of regulations and procedures?! BTW, there are rare earths and a few other valuable items in Ukraine's soil...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

BTW, there are rare earths and a few other valuable items in Ukraine’s soil…

Rare earths are everywhere. They're called rare because they are spread out instead of clumping into ores. You don't mine them like you do typical metals, you just dig up a ton of dirt and process the rare earths out of it. It's the processing that's troublesome, not locating them.