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The British talking about Russia and Ukraine (lemmy.ml)

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[+] [email protected] -6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Well, I've also grown up in the former Eastern Bloc. So 1:1. Maybe you were part of the privileged group profiting from the Soviet imperialism? ;)

Also: Do you deny the Gulag, the oppression of all opposition, including any forms of self-organization, the Holodomor genocide, and the ethnic cleansing, e.g., of the Crimean Tatars?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

ah yes the PriVileGed GrOup ProFiTing FroM the SovIeT ImepriaLism seems to have been majority of the population in USSR 🤡

A remarkable 72% of Hungarians say that most people in their country are actually worse off today economically than they were under communism. Only 8% say most people in Hungary are better off, and 16% say things are about the same. In no other Central or Eastern European country surveyed did so many believe that economic life is worse now than during the communist era. This is the result of almost universal displeasure with the economy. Fully 94% describe the country's economy as bad, the highest level of economic discontent in the hard hit region of Central and Eastern Europe. Just 46% of Hungarians approve of their country's switch from a state-controlled economy to a market economy; 42% disapprove of the move away from communism. The public is even more negative toward Hungary's integration into Europe; 71% say their country has been weakened by the process.
The most incredible result was registered in a July 2010 IRES (Romanian Institute for Evaluation and Strategy) poll, according to which 41% of the respondents would have voted for Ceausescu, had he run for the position of president. And 63% of the survey participants said their life was better during communism, while only 23% attested that their life was worse then. Some 68% declared that communism was a good idea, just one that had been poorly applied.
Glorification of the German Democratic Republic is on the rise two decades after the Berlin Wall fell. Young people and the better off are among those rebuffing criticism of East Germany as an "illegitimate state." In a new poll, more than half of former eastern Germans defend the GDR.
A poll shows that as many as 81 per cent of Serbians believe they lived best in the former Yugoslavia -"during the time of socialism". The survey focused on the respondents' views on the transition "from socialism to capitalism", and a clear majority said they trusted social institutions the most during the rule of Yugoslav communist president Josip Broz Tito. The standard of living during Tito's rule from the Second World War to the 1980s was also assessed as best, whereas the Milosevic decade of the 1990s, and the subsequent decade since the fall of his regime are seen as "more or less the same". 45 percent said they trusted social institutions most under communism with 23 percent choosing the 2001-2003 period when Zoran Djinđic was prime minister. Only 19 per cent selected present-day institutions.
75% of Russians have expressed increasingly positive opinions about the Soviet Union over the years. Only a small portion of those surveyed said they had negative associations with the Soviet Union. The economic deficit, long lines and coupons were named by 4% of respondents each, while the Iron Curtain, economic stagnation and political repressions were named by 1% each, the Levada Center said.

Also: Do you deny the Gulag, the oppression of all opposition, including any forms of self-organization, the Holodomor genocide, and the ethnic cleansing, e.g., of the Crimean Tatars?

Of course I deny your fascist propaganda. Holodomor genocide narrative was literally created by fascist and you've just exposed yourself by regurgitating it.

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[+] [email protected] -6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yes, the majority of the population. Everybody wanted to go to the USSR and the Eastern Bloc in general. That is why they built the Berlin Wall and heavily guarded all the borders with Western Europe. To stop all the migrants ;) (I prefer to trust people living at that time than the nostalgia.)

I agree that it is worse in Russia now than it was in the post-Stalin Soviet era, though.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

Yes, the majority of the population. Everybody wanted to go to the USSR and the Eastern Bloc in general. That is why they built the Berlin Wall and heavily guarded all the borders with Western Europe. To stop all the migrants ;) (I prefer to trust people living at that time than the nostalgia.)

Oh look more drivel. The reason the immigration was strict wasn't because everyone wanted to flee from USSR as you fascists claim. It was because people who got their free education in USSR could leverage it go and make way more money in the west and live of the capitalist exploitation. The fact that the majority of the population of USSR voted against the dissolution in the referendum clearly shows that you're full of shit.

I agree that it is worse in Russia now than it was in the post-Stalin Soviet era, though.

Meanwhile, where it's actually worse now than during USSR times is in the Baltics where the industry is gone, and everyone who has the means to do so left.

Meanwhile, Russian economy is booming, and the World Bank just reclassified Russia as a high income country https://blogs.worldbank.org/en/opendata/world-bank-country-classifications-by-income-level-for-2024-2025

The IMF forecasts that Russian economy is set to grow faster than all the western economies https://www.cnbc.com/2024/04/17/russia-forecast-to-grow-faster-than-advanced-economies-in-2024-imf.html

Literally every single thing you stated in this thread is demonstrably wrong. Gotta work on your trolling skills not to make it so obvious.

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