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Sure. People like to romanticize the past and the Wiedervereinigung was a shitty process that fucked many people over. But it is nice, not to live in a Planwirtschaft, to travel to other german cities without being shot at or running through mine fields and not to have a quarter of your neighbourhood spy on you to be brought to one of the Stasi torture prisons for not being socialist enough.
Wow, that sounds horrible, I bet there were a lot of prosecutions of the people who carried those things out once the government reunified!
Oh, and the physical evidence and documentation of those torture dungeons after the wall fell, there must be so much evidence of all the horrors committed!
And all the violence the evil communist government must have done to keep itself in power and prevent reunification must have been really evident, I bet we can find newspaper clippings and even video on the widespread violence that happened in an effort to hold on to power.
Wait, I'm getting reports that none of those things actually happened, fuck. It would have lined up so nicely with the narrative taught to me by American education and popular media, that's a real bummer.
Who needs evidence when you have it repeated in so many western movies?
Wow, your education system really has failed you.
Please link me to sources then.
https://www.bundesarchiv.de/en/stasi-records-archive/
Mate it's right there.
Cool than you'd be able to share things from the archives that meet those specified criterion?
Yes sure let me just get an eight hour train to Berlin to work on your assignments, random person on the internet.
Okay so you are claiming that there is proof but we would have to go to Berlin to find proof? In the age where internet archives exist?
If neither of us are willing to physically go there than why did you cite it as a source to support your claims?
Yes, let's ask the German government to make Stasi records spying on the private lives of citizens open and public, because it would help strangers win arguments on the internet.
You are not a very serious person, are you?
Dear God, are you claiming that the proof for the three things I asked for proof for can only be found at this specific archive? Thay doesn't even make sense, how is proof of widespread government violence in order to prevent reunification found there? How is proof of extensive nuremburg-esque trials post-reunificstion found there?