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[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 days ago (4 children)

To test if your phone is listening to your conversations, start by openly discussing a unique topic that you’ve never searched for or discussed previously

... then see if it appears in your ads. Saved you a click.

[–] grey_maniac 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This might sound naive, but what ads? I don't get ads on my phone, I have functioning adblockers on my browsers, and I use alternate front ends for the occasions I have to access normie social media.

I don't watch TV or listen tp the radio, I read books and research papers primarily, and my actual social media use is on the federated options using apps that don't have ads. I have my phone pretty tightly locked down, so even the apps I use don't have ads.

Aside from the occasional product placements in something, I don't get much exposure to advertising. And before anyone goes there, I work from home and don't even see billboards. I don't even get flyers.

Would I have to change a lot of that to run these tests?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

I'm the same. It is quite jaring to see an add now. They seems very obnoxious.

The only issue in have is ads in podcasts. This isn't a huge deal as the provider usually determine add based on IP so i get a 30 second ad in a language I can't understand.

Any solutions to this?

P.S. before I switched from YouTube I disabled all data collection and personalisation a few notable ads I used to receive:

  • Ads for balls soap (this ad was repugnant)
  • Ads for Muslim speed dating, with male chaperone (I'm not a Muslim)
  • A 1hour Chinese party political conference, in Chinese (I don't speak Chinese)

^ Ive got the last one saved out of curiosity.

I remember a time when YouTube was not owned by google and was ad free.

The internet was better before all of this tracking.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago

So I cant even test if my Phone is listening. Great!

(I havent seen an Ad in a decade)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Absolutely. I’ve tested this with friends, and we pick random topics or products we would never need or look up. Sure enough, we both start getting ads within 24 hours.

Got into a rare mild argument with my wife last week, and we started getting marriage counseling and dating app ads. Fucking infuriating.

Notice the plausible deniability that’s always put into ‘we are not spying on you statements.’ Zuckerberg will tell Congress, ‘Facebook is not listening on your phone,’ but that leaves it open for a third party partner to be doing the spying for them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

If you can reproduce it that reliably, I would be interested in hearing the results of an experiment where you have a clean phone and install just one of your apps at a time to see exactly which apps are spying on you. We all have our suspicions about which are definitely doing this, but it's hard to know for sure without a proper controlled test.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

How can you be sure that the "random" products aren't something that you've seen ads on (but not remembered seeing), which stuck in your subconscious, and then you regurgitated as the random item? Then later when you saw more of the same ads, you noticed them and they seemed like new, targeted ads.

You would need to use a random topic generator, not just come up with them via brain.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yea pretty much a real thing was talking about bikes the other day and now getting ads for bikes in youtube

Google listening to everything

Apple, Facebook, Instagram etc all of it are constantly working on the back.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

If you share wifi with someone who has done the search on their devices, It will do that.