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Proton CEO Andy Yen gave a surprisingly sharp interview to the Swiss magazine "watson" (source in German: https://www.watson.ch/digital/wirtschaft/517198902-proton-schweiz-chef-andy-yen-zum-ausbau-der-staatlichen-ueberwachung). He warned that Proton might leave Switzerland if new surveillance laws are passed, which aligns with the company’s strong pro-privacy stance. So far, nothing unexpected.

However, Yen’s remarks about Swiss officials - describing them as lifelong bureaucrats, all lazy, and incompetent - came across as arrogant and out of place, almost like something you’d expect from a capitalism praising Trump supporter. he also was quoted in the interview, that the US works better (so they consider to move there?).

The interview left me speechless, and I’m certain I won’t be considering Proton for any of my future projects

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Thank you for explaining! :)

Does Mailbox.org's privacy statement read well to you?

Oh, I found this. It seems you can activate mailbox encryption! Thanks for pushing me to find this.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The privacy statement shows big words and all, but I’m interested in the legal page of privacy policy. Unfortunately, an orange flag is that it isn’t easily available from anywhere, which is a bad practice. Here is its link: https://mailbox.org/en/data-protection

It’s not written like ordinary privacy policies, they organized it in categories, which funnily enough makes it harder to read and understand.

Overall it’s pretty good but a lot of things aren’t mentioned. It seems like the IP with which you registered is permanently stored on their servers. Big red flag if that’s the case. Consider using a VPN/proxy when creating an account if that matters to you.

It seems like they also let you store your private key encrypted by a password, which is a nice way to do it. Incoming emails are encrypted this way which makes them encrypted at rest. I wonder how it works with other email clients though. Nothing to say more than it’s perfect.

They don’t use the content of your emails, they don’t sell your data or "track" you. That’s nice!


NOTE: I actually didn’t read proton's privacy policy! So I can’t compare both, but in terms of privacy you’re pretty good with mailbox. Their analytics respect your privacy overall. Anonymity isn’t perfect but they allow VPNs and Tor exit nodes. They would benefit from having more transparency around this subject: data collection and time of retention.