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I know it's a hot topic in both the real world, and online, but I suspect not a huge shock to those learned individuals. I doubt the Scottish Government will be appealing, I suspect Swinney keen to put it behind the SNP. A sad day for trans women. I'm sure they, and their allies, will campaign on to try to persuade the UK government to amend the various acts next.

Edit: locking this post to stop fly-bys. As a mod I don't want to see the discourse descend further than what has already been posted

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Who except a farmer is ever in a situation where getting the sex of a sheep right actually matters? I'm sure if you put a sheep on sex hormones and gave it some surgery you'd convince me to answer the other way, and I'm sure as fuck not chromosome testing the sheep to find out.

So is it based on genitalia? Is it chromosomes? Is it what your birth certificate says? How does any of this affect intersex people? How do you intend on actually checking without it being both ludicrously impractical and invasive? And if you say "I can always tell," no, you can't. You do not know when you can't tell. That's what not being able to tell is.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It's not about "being able to tell" it's about reality.

Are you seriously telling me you don't understand what a female and a male is. I grew up in the 90s. We all knew then. It's pretty straightforward.

We used to have common sense. Now we have lost it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Right, so how do you personally tell? Is it just by guessing based on their appearance, voice, and name? Because if so, that's exactly what I'm talking about

[–] [email protected] -3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The joy is I don't have to guess. If you have to prove it through your biological sex then it's pretty straightforward. What are you. It's one of two options.

There is however a large majority who you can tell on the markers you have noted. However, what does the law state now?

We have biological Sex. So that's how you define it. Easy. How do you prove to your gas supplier where you live? You show proof of address.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Right, so you do just think you can tell. Glad we got there in the end

We have biological Sex

Biology does not care for simple categorisations. Remember Caster Semenya and all the shit the world flung at her?

You show proof of address.

So are we all carrying our birth certificates around just in case there's a particularly zealous dick inspector outside the bathrooms?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I wouldn't see any problems with having to prove your sex to join a gym or the likes. No. That's fine.

I also didn't say "I can tell" I said there are ways to tell with certain people. Your ignorance of humanity is wild.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The joy is I don't have to guess.

Yeah, you did say

I wouldn't see any problems with having to prove your sex to join a gym or the likes

Right, and for every other sex-segregated space that is regularly brought up in these discussions and which doesn't require registration beforehand? What about the bathrooms at a restaurant? I don't need a membership to go to the local swimming pool. If I get arrested I'm not likely to have my birth certificate on me.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Most pools these days are unisex, and piss where you like.

Still doesn't change that there are two sexes.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Still doesn't change that there are two sexes.

One day you might learn that there is, in fact, more biology than what you learned in primary school

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 days ago

Outliers to the norm don't change the norm. Sometimes I wonder how humanity got this far then I remember this madness is new.