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[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I'm not an expert on EU antitrust but these things seem like they naturally go together. After all, Outlook comes with Office, right? Is that not a communication and collaboration tool?

[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Well.. that depends on who you ask. Some say that Teams being a part of the bundle is anti competitive (which it is). Outlook used to be only a mail client, so it made sense when it was part of the Office package, as one thing that an Office user needs, is an email client. Exchange servers had to be hosted by the company. However nowadays, you get the client and the infra for a subscription based model so it was kind of grandfathered in, I guess. If I as a company say I'm not interested in Teams and want to not pay for it as I do not plan to use it, msft will tell me it's not possible. Therefore, businesses like Slack can never succeed because I as a company will never look at alternatives if I already get a messaging app built into my Office suite.

I dunno, I'm just mumbo jumbing really and not a lawyer (or an EU citizen, for that matter). I just hate Teams.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago

I think this is a great explanation. Teams really is anti competitive and the way you laid it out made that easier for me to understand.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

Yes. If they argued that oh no, we can't have excel in office. That's just too many products bundled together, I'd be pissed

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's kinda what I'm thinking. It's just a new app that is part of Microsoft Office but also available standalone. Pretty sure you can also just... not install it during Office install, just like all of the other apps. They all work independently of each other.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Except Outlook only lets you add Teams meetings to appointments, not Zoom, for example. Teams is prioritised in several other parts of MS Office suite

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago

You can actually add zoom meeting links to outlook by default. I do it every day at my company, and we don’t use Teams at all.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What? Office Apps of course allows 3rd party plugins.

Zoom:

Google:

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I've got the new Outlook interface and it's not there. There are only three tabs on the top: Home, View and Help. The only online option is Teams, as in this screenshot

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

It's a third party plugin. It's not there by default. You need to manually install it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

We use Outlook and have plenty of zoom and Google meetings connected to outlook appointments.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Totally agree. Teams may not be the most fun messaging app. But to me it's a part of the office package.