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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (16 children)

Because "is already over" means he's not good enough for the left. So they'll stay home and stomp their feet like they did in November. And he'll lose.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 day ago (13 children)

THATS NOT WHT THE FUCK IT MEANS

[–] [email protected] 5 points 23 hours ago (12 children)

That's what I understood it to mean. So then tell me, what does it mean?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

It means that he's going to make himself beholden to donors like every establishment Dem does so even if all the leftists vote for him they're not going to get what they voted for thanks to The Machine. He absolutely positively should NOT do ANYTHING that is geared towards trying to woo the Establishment. AOC didnt do it, along with several others. He is WINNING; there is NO reason to change tactics. Besides, he's running for Mayor. There is no reason to involve any "advisors" from old national races that are irrelevant now.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

even if all the leftists vote for

That's my point, and also the mistake. I'm a first past the post system, you don't vote FOR anything. You vote AGAINST the worst candidate. Not voting is the same as voting for the worst because it moves the goal posts closer.

So until people understand that, there's no help in highlighting flaws in Democrat candidates. It only scares off the people who don't understand FPTP.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

That’s my point, and also the mistake. I’m a first past the post system, you don’t vote FOR anything. You vote AGAINST the worst candidate.

This message brought to you by the second worst party. By as thin a margin as they think they can get away with.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

So you're saying both parties suck, and also agree with the fact that our current voting system holds us hostage?

I'm 100% with you. And until we get ranked choice voting, we hold our nose and vote Democrat to reduce how big of a shaft is rammed into our minority friends and family.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

As they sprint to the right and throw our minority friends and family under the bus for the glorious privilege of gaining zero republican votes. And then they blame the left for the results of their complicity with fascists.

But I can't dare gripe about it, ostensibly because it HeLpS tHe RePuBliCanS, but in all cases it's really because centrists don't want any criticism as they move so far to the right that they're supporting genocide.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

So you're saying it doesn't help the Republicans?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I'm saying that centrists already help the republicans.

But god fucking forbid someone to their left have any criticism whatsoever.

You don't care about a goddamned thing except securing the silence of hhe left.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I care about securing the success of the Democrats. Anything else is securing l ensuring success of Republicans. It's literally two choices. You don't get a good one. You hope to reject the worse one.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I care about securing the success of the Democrats.

And moving to the right and throwing vulnerable minorities under the bus hasn't done that, but it's helping republicans to try to get the party to ever stop betraying anyone not named netanyahu or cheney.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 30 minutes ago

Irrelevant. You only get two options. Bad or worse. And if you fail to vote, you get worse.

Youre a hostage. So am I. And until we get ranked choice voting, or run for office ourselves, we remain hostages. And in hostage situations, you just have to strive for the least bad option.

It's very not complicated. It's rigged. And not in our favor.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Its actually borne out by the statistics. Generally few people get what they want in FPTP but the public can often avoid what it doesnt want as long as there's not a 3rd party. The major problem is donors pick the party candidates in both parties unless more people start voting in primaries.

If you watched the dem primary in NY you saw the difference in tone for a ranked choice election. Politicians can win in platforms there because RCV can actually deliver popular candidates.

I do think it works better if people retaliate against senators and house reps for specific votes rather than party vibes. You want the politicians afraid to vote against the public not riding poll numbers on seats.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago

Have fun voting for second worst every time as they keep chasing fascists to the right, then.

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