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Biden isn't ending the Afghanistan War, he's privatizing it: Special Forces, Pentagon contractors, intelligence operatives will remain (thegrayzone.com)

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 years ago (1 children)

And I find it disappointing those who puts this to the US wanting profits and shows a lack of understanding. People in the US seems to want to pull out, but pulling out is bad for the region, so this move is a middle-step.

Best would be if the US hold on to their positions more tightly and didn't wiggle so much. This is the case from before Trump, although Trump really fucked things up. If they pulled out slowly over a long period of time, like years that would probably be the most optimal solution at least for the US pulling out.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 years ago (2 children)

I agree that most people in the United States want to pull out of the war, but the same is not true for their government. It is closely linked with the military industrial complex, which makes a lot of profit from wars, and wants to continue them. And like this video explains, being in Afghanistan is also part of their strategy to encircle China.

And as the article mentions, the US isnt really pulling out of Afghanistan. They are leaving over 10.000 private military contractors and special forces, plus two military airbases. So they can redeploy their troops in a matter of days or weeks.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 years ago

Only if people understood the class interests involved and whose interest the Government cares more about & tries to enforce. Unfortuanely, we don't talk about C-word anymore and pretend they don't exist!

[+] [email protected] -6 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (2 children)

There are a version of this I could agree with, unfortunately there are a lot of things I dislike.

"The US isn't REALLY pulling out" "The government acts on it's own and don't adher to the representatives nor the voters that vote them in" "Afghanistan is also part of their strategy to encircle China"

I find these statements that are pretty difficult to swallow and i'd call some of it very conspiratorial. I'd agree on some level that the military industrial complex is a problem, they are keeping some forces, but fully pulling out like that would be stupid and dangerous for Afghanistan.

I say good that they can deploy their troops in a matter of days or weeks. One thing is to not want your soldiers dying in Afghanistan, another is wanting Afghanistan to not have armed forces available. Just seems to warped to me

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 years ago (1 children)

I find these statements that are pretty difficult to swallow and i’d call some of it very conspiratorial.

What right does the US have, to have 800+ military bases outside its borders?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 children)

Nuance is a b1tch. You have to differentiate current and historical military action. Not all US bases exists for the same reason and exists from different deals of security and so on.

Also, why is it a problem with the military bases there? It's a shame that these places has military power right? Seems like that is what you categorically want. I'll probably make sure not to get into a rabbithole about Hong Kong and Taiwan either.

But I know you guys for a bit now, so i'm not suprised. Can't help taking the piss at ya'll too. But I do get so stirred by all the stuff, which is motly my fault.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago)

The American foreign policy is commonly known, historically as well as currently. The same actions that happened in Iraq couple decades ago, similar actions like Project Maven (Google AI powered military drones) happened in 2018, where Yemen was bombed.

What are these historical and current actions being different, you speak of? Are you apologising for the American overseas terrorism knowingly, whilst portraying some kind of pity on the "eagle saviour of the world"? Are you evangelised regarding USA's intent to make the world a better place?

Is the Uyghur genocide propaganda, and recent delisting of Al Qaeda associate ETIM terrorist organisation, not a hint of history repeating once again, after the Iran baby incubator testimony of Nayirah, whose family got paid $8M by CIA?

Is the Vietnam war, or the East Timor or Indonesian genocides, documented, enough for you to understand Anglo colonialism?

Also, you do not seem to know why a lot of the US basecamps are lined conveniently along the Strait of Malacca, the main route for South Asia for trading stuff. And somehow, the only other trade route established by China, using Belt Road Initiative, passing through Afghanistan, is also where USA military stands by since post 9/11.