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Its like Hillary walking into a working class kitchen for the first time.

They've been shielded from even critical support of China and other AES for so long they literally, not figuratively, literally cannot process that people exist that have beliefs that aren't Reddit Approved. They immediately assume it's bots or wumao. Human beings can't possibly hold these beliefs, so they must be Oriental hordes or actual robots.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago (14 children)

There are alternatives to both Russian aggression and the Ukrainian far-right/fascist sections of the army.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (12 children)

are there? shit. I'll support Cuba's offensive to liberate both Ukrainian and Russian territory from these countries and institute state socialism from now on then, what villages are they starting it from?

apologies for the snark, I just personally cannot see a future where NATO/Ukraine wins and things are better, but I can see a future where Russia wins and things are better, and drawing an equivalence between them because both countries are led by moronic oligarchs and supporting some secret third thing just feels like when communists are like "Actually, I don't support either America or China and Russia. I support the global working class who needs to organize and overthrow the bourgeoisie!" is just like, yeah, you're technically correct, but we've also been saying that for the last century now and it hasn't happened, and the powers fighting America seem like the best shot we have right now of creating the conditions for the working class to institute that global revolution

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (11 children)

What future is that? I cannot see this war changing anything for the better. I don't think anybody's lives (except for the bourgeoisie's) improved due to this war. The nazis are getting more funding and support, people are getting conscripted, leftist parties are being banned, homes are getting shelled and countless working class peoples lives have been destroyed. Russia seems very far from a revolution, being a quasi-fascist dictatorship who's only major challenge is the equally far-right Wagner group.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Russian independence shields China, which shields the global south.

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