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I'm gonna preface this comment by writing that I don't know those two peoples and only checked the hated one channel and watched one of his video on apple. Feel free to correct me.
The key word is agenda.
To understand such behaviour it helps to identify those people motives. In my opinion, - maybe misguided - they are akin to any other influencers. They promote privacy and an associated 'hacker' lifestyle like one would promote vegan, fitness, makeup, etc.
The hated one shit on big tech but he also monetize his content, had a patreon and ask for donation. I don't see any peertube, mastodon or lemmy presence.
He does not provide those video out of goodness of his heart but has monetary incentives behind him, he has a brand, follower, etc. This is not necessarily a bad thing. However it need to be taken into account when trying to understand some decision, and a big one is why they focus on some stuff and not others.
From my limited expertise - I'm a human and I use the internet - fear mongering and drama are two important mechanism in the influencer tool-set. And using them help improve their brand so why wouldn't they?
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imo I dont see them this way.You just discovered them and because of that you cant really decide completely about who they are just from 1 video.Of course the hated one would ask for donations and such.Since im pretty sure he relies on such stuff to mantain himself.Also just because hes a privacy advocate doesnt mean he needs to use lemmy,mastodon and such.Its just like techlore who has discord and such stuff so that he can spread privacy to ppl who are stuck on those services ,so that one day they randomly run into his content and learn about privacy.I also disagree on the part of "he does not provide those videos out of goodness of his heart" I mean he is not forcing you to do such stuff and just because someone tries to make money from something doesnt mean that thats their only motive to make such content.
Also to add more onto the "he does not provide those videos out of goodness of his heart" argument, he made a video about Newpipe.He even talked about how he didnt care if you moved since of course he wouldnt be able to get likes or ad revenue because of ppl using things like newpipe and how he just wanted people to use these products to get away from using the youtube app or website.
Even newpipe isn't the right choice it's cool to acess youtube but, Youtube only exist for make money out of you, free labor for someone finacial gains is called #DigtalSlavery and Youtube isn't recommendable they only did it because Youtube was of Chad Hurley, Steve Chen, and Jawed Karim— created the service in February 2005. Google bought the site in November 2006 for US$1.65 billion; YouTube now operates as one of Google's subsidiaries
G00gl€ bought it only with financial interest nothing more