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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I can't follow, would you elaborate? Sounds like an interesting debate :)

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (3 children)

The funny combination would be to combine the single party authoritarian structure with a completly unregulated economy for maximum carnage :P

As far as I underatand the quote, hes talking about needing a socialist system where the rights of individuals are respected and protected, but factories, housing etc is owned and and managed by the commons.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

That kinda sounds like the goal of socialism to me, with a state managing the societal functions but the workers owning the means of production but still in a capitalist environment

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

funny, "we all lift together" started playing in my head.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I love stumbling about references to this game

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Your first paragraph pretty much describes the PRC.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Smaller groups of humans (villages, households, ...?) could decide among themselves whether they prefer to live together by capitalist or communist principles. These smaller groups could function within a larger federation - a bit like the fediverse with its smaller instances where each can decide their own internal rules.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

yeah, thats probably a really unstable combination, as the internal logic of capitalism requires infinite growth, so the capitalist parts will be strongly incentivised to expand into and consume the communist parts.

But maybe different kinds of socialist communities could federate like this?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

That's roughly the idea of Anarchism, Democratic Confederalism, and how the Zapatistas govern themselves. But they're all anti-capitalist.