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Feminism Was Never About Equality - TFF 2.0
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Great channel from a retired PHD who's been studying feminism and it's affects on modern academia and society. Good info.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

That's egalitarianism, not feminism.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Egalitarianism also holds women as responsible for their choices and actions as much as it does men, which feminists consider misogyny and discrimination.

So they may still be talking about feminism, depending very specifically on the details

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Women having the same legal rights is egalitarianism.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And the same legal responsibilities

Rights without equal obligation to society to enable those rights is privilege, not equality

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Yes, I know feminists want privileges.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Don't think it was egalitarians who managed to get women right to vote, hold public office, own property, recieved an education, and work. Maybe I'm missing some important egalitarian figures who helped women achieve an equal standing with men in western world?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You apparently didn't watch the video. Please do so before you spread more disinformation.

Women already did own property, and were able to receive an education, and most definitely were not an untapped resource for labor. As was explained in the video, with evidence given.

Yes, they may not have had the right to vote or to hold public office, but neither did most men. It was the struggle for universal suffrage which gave both men and women the vote.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Women already did own property, and were able to receive an education, and most definitely were not an untapped resource for labor.

In the same manner as man? There were rather obvious differences in written law as well as in societal rules, regarding men and women.

I really don't understand the point in denying historical role of feminism for the progress in women rights.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

It was categorically denied (by the top level commenter, and repeated by you) that women had those rights. That is the disinformation that feminism keeps spreading with its propaganda.

Please get up to speed by actually watching the video. Otherwise discussion is useless.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

It was categorically denied (by the top level commenter, and repeated by you) that women had those rights.

No, at least in my case that is just a very uncharitable interpretation of my words. The point of feminism is to get equal rights (we seem fundamentally to disagree here, but that is my point of view), so I listed things that historically were clearly differently regulated for women and men - to exemplify where feminism strove for more equality. Other movements had different foci. Socialists were more focused on workers rights vs. capital owner, or others were more focused on individual rights vs. the sate.

Obviously all these inequalities have intertwined roots, which is recognized in modern intersectional feminism.