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  1. We're trying to improving working conditions and pay.

  2. We're trying to reduce the numbers of hours a person has to work.

  3. We talk about the end of paid work being mandatory for survival.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (29 children)

This is just silliness.

There's more to life than food, most of which requires work. But even in just the food realm, that food needs to be shipped, processed (unless you want to start slaughtering your own animals) and delivered. All of which requires people.

Then, sure, some farming is automated but the materials that are automated? Yup, they have to be extracted, refined, assembled, and shipped. Not to mention y'know, designing those. And of course the people who have to fix them when they break.

All of which requires other industries, people to maintain roads, people to generate the power required to move the food along the roads, people to oversee the distribution etc.

Debt isn't required but that works both ways, why does the world owe you stuff for being born?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The world has resources, countries have public resources or resources that should be publicly owned, like every source of energy. It shouldn't be difficult to have a built-in buffer that means everyone's going to be okay, from public sources of income.

And no child chooses to be born. The world even complains that not enough people are being born, demanding more. Bringing children into the world should mean responsibilities, not just for the parents, but the society that insists on it.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And no child chooses to be born.

And no child has to stay. You always have an exit.

The world doesn't you things just because you exist. And frankly, there are millions of starving folks who do work hard who are probably more deserving of stuff than some of the most privileged people in human history complaining "I don't wanna work!" We have it better than all but a tiny fraction of a percent of all the humans who have ever lived and still we complain about having to work occasionally to live our lives of comparative luxury.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, a whole lot of people work hard, and don't get meaningfully compensated for it. But it's not about people on small amounts of welfare vs. the working poor (who also might be on welfare), that's not where you're going to find the wealth that's been stolen.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Heya, just a heads up, I think you meant to respond to someone else's comment!

Didn't want to leave that other person hanging.

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