I mean, there's also the issue of teens from Russia and Ukraine etc acting tough in situations where they really shouldn't. What for them is acting tough only, for other teens in a bad district in another country may be an invitation to a knife fight.

It's also problematic that Eastern Europeans are usually not conscious of the fact that in some other countries hooligans are really hooligans and that they themselves are very much not tough.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Are you saying the blame for violent 12 year olds falls on foreigners not expecting 12 year olds to be violent?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

No, just that I know that teens from ex-Soviet countries sometimes consider themselves tougher than teens from Western countries, at the same time not realizing that hooligan tone or behavior there means something more serious.

Cause in ex-Soviet countries adults and politicians sometimes play that hooligan behavior, it has become casual and nobody expects to get stabbed for it.

While in some countries such behavior means that you are looking for a fight.