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What you call "communist nations" call themselves socialist. Maybe you think socialism is social-democracy i.e. Scandinavia or some parts of Europe. It's not, as they are still capitalist.
I don't see where the issue is? I pointed out socialist and communist nations in parentheses.
Yes. But first let me point out that you spoke about communism in general, and not China specifically, when you said that "so many in western countries love the idea of communism when this is precisely what it leads to" -- I assume what it leads to is lgbt-phobia? Regardless, this specific argument is about that exact part I quoted, that communism precisely leads to something.
China does not claim anywhere that they are a communist country. They only talk about socialism, because they are not yet in a communist phase.
The Communist Party of China is leading China towards communism but China is not yet communist, they are building socialism so that they can move to communism down the line, in however many years it will take.
Nothing ground breaking if you know anything about communist theory, but honestly it just sounds like you want to argue in bad faith so peace. I'm out of this convo.
Stop trolling people, and try to participate in discussion with good faith.
No, you are declaring your ignorant opinions as THE opinion here, and degrading posting quality with your cheap shots in this entire thread.
No, you are unable to respond to arguments in a non trolling way yet. You are trolling and baiting now.
Someone who is trying to stand for good faith discussions.
You ever heard of Deng Xiaoping's ideas and Socialism with Chinese characteristics? China stopped being communist in 1930s, and they are currently socialist.
Communist state means a classless, moneyless and stateless society from what I know. I doubt any state like that exists, maybe in the future with automation and UBI it will happen.
Please do not cite Wikipedia for political or socialist topics. And please cite your sources if you want to be taken seriously.
No, Wikipedia has citations and references, which you refused to give. Stop trolling.
"I like to bait and troll people with lies about political ideologies."
Where did you quote your lies from? Citation?
So are yout refusing to cite the link, even though you have opened the webpage?
You are not everyone, and you are a dishonest and ignorant troll, that is what you are, 21 hour old shitposter. You basically created an account to shit on this specific post on Lemmy.
You never cited your false claims. You posted a Wikipedia article, from where you copypasted a paragraph with a citation of its own.
Troll someone else. Try again. Try harder. And no need to give sarcastic ill greetings.
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Bad flamebait 0/10
I have seen too many trolls attack, bait and spread hatred on Lemmy by now. I have been here for about 400 times as long as you have been on Lemmy.
You might probably never realise ignorant trolling and misleading people with politics is a disgusting and dishonest faith way of participation in communities.
My job is done here with you. Will expose more trolling across the rest of Lemmy, as I always do. I despise people who attack Fediverse and FOSS projects in such ways.
Nice attempt at polarisation and breeding partisan politics. Alas, on my watch it will fail.