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I'm happy to have a Lemmy-alternative like Kbin (kbin.social)

submitted 2 years ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Many might not know, but the developers of Lemmy are communist tankies - and i'm not joking - that spread propagranda and misinformation. They for example deny the genocide of the Uighurs in China as it is a "hoax perpetated by the western propagandists".

Now, we don't know where the creator of Kbin stands, but hopefully they aren't as controversial. As how I see it all the attention they are getting after the great Reddit escape is going to get quite a bit backtracked when all the tankie stuff starts to get a apparent and drives people away again.

Honestly I'd feel the most comfertable with something as close as possible to Reddit, like a one plattform company connected to the fediverse, instead of umbrella plattforms like Kbin, Mastodon, Pixelfed Etc.

But I am hopeful for Kbin and we will see over time where the Kbin creator goes. Luckily as it is the fediverse I can just jump ship to a different project if I see things going to wrong way lol

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago

They do not hide it, they will honestly answer you if you ask them. You can also see it if you look through the post history of the devs on lemmy.ml.

The two main guys:
https://lemmy.ml/u/dessalines
https://lemmy.ml/u/nutomic

I think they try to have a wider community, the issue is more that you'll get dogpiled and continually massdownvoted if the communists on lemmy.ml and lemmygrad.ml doesn't particurarly like you. This is a common reason some people switch over to Kbin I have heard too. And the bar for being a 'western liberal' is very low. This is not something they take much responsebillity over even though it is their own crowd.

And I'm not someone who uses the word Tankie without care. It's properly assigned in this case.

While political opinions aren't required or something you have to be neutral on, their particurlar political positions and crowd are so radical it taints their project and any meaningful possibillity of success. And not only that, but they are active members of their community pushing their narrative, as well as fosters a community of the same kind, it all making it really unlikely for others to want to collaborate with them, or any greater audience to stay.

Also the 'ml' in 'lemmy.ml' stands for 'marxist lenninist', which is their flagship instance, and the Chinese genozide example is just 1 example among a long line of problematic views. (Their avatars are different pictures of Fidel Castro btw) As well as there being sentiments of Russia going back to the USSR and all that. Some of that has been altering a bit after the Ukrainian war in terms of how they talk about it, but they are still in the same boat as years ago, pushing NATO being created by nazis to battle the communists, and started the project because they were getting banned on reddit.