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Obviously, things supporting Nazis should definitely not be allowed, but this is what I mean by non-condemning portrayals: In historical flight simulator games, there is often the option to fly Nazi planes, same with tank and ship simulators. There are scale models of Nazi military vehicles for sale. There are replicas of Nazi uniforms being sold, documentaries on how Nazi vehicles worked, historical simulators where you play as a Nazi soldier etc. These portrayals take more or less a neutral stance to the Nazis, where they're just trying to represent something related to them without saying whether they're for or against them.

A lot of people say that Nazis are part of world history and so these politically neutral depictions are okay, some even say they have educational value. But this is why I disagree: One, you don't have to learn about Nazi military vehicles to learn about the history of the Nazis, so what do you gain from them? Plus, IMO the history of Nazis is best taught in the context that they were terrible, with a focus on the atrocities they committed. I think the "those who do not learn from history" line is irrelevant because do we really need to preserve these details in order to preserve the fact that Nazis should be universally hated?

These portrayals can also attract actual Nazis, even if that's a small portion of the consumer base. Finally, they have the possibility of desensitizing people to Nazi content so they're more easily roped into their propaganda if they're ever exposed to it.

If all non-condemning portrayals of Nazis were "censored," I honestly wouldn't lose any sleep over it. In fact, I'm pretty sure they're already banned in countries like China (someone who knows anything about it please confirm or deny), which has a no tolerance policy on fascist or Nazi ideology.

I'm using Nazis as my example here, but this can apply to any objectively horrible thing in history.

What do you think? Do you agree or disagree, and why?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 years ago* (last edited 4 years ago)

I'd say yes, only because it introduces fewer caveats. I see a significant value in understanding why the Nazis existed and how they came to be who they are, from Hitler to the lowest party member, but I also can't see a way to portray it in a manner that doesn't accidentally make Nazism relatable.

If all non-condemning portrayals of Nazis were “censored,” I honestly wouldn’t lose any sleep over it.

Anything I have to say in defense of non-condemning portrayal of Nazis is not some mountain I'm willing to die for or anything, because there are other ways to get at understanding Nazism, and fascism in general. I'm basically in agreement here, I wouldn't lose a wink of sleep over it.