You are right, that some of the processes can be probably optimized (in fact alot of them are for NATO members... which is one NATO benefits beyond deterrence), but my point here is: All those leaders are democratically elected by voters that are in fact influenced by the media. And the media coverage is at times totally unhinged. And this also causes problems. Especially nowadays when a single report is instantly multiplied because everyone is afraid of missing clicks. While the readers barely check anything but the title, most cerntainly not the source.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I get what you're saying but we I think it's beena decent middle ground of checks and balances. You can't just pour weapons into every conflict that starts up.

There are streamlined processes but Ukraine never made it a goal or priority to join NATO or the EU.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

@veroxii @xhci Au contraire, Pres Zelenskyye has made no bones about the fact that he wants in the NATO alliance yesterday. I'm not certain about the EU, but he'd likely not refuse it totally as it would provide markets for Ukrainian wheat and products. Conflicts eat up weapons. Unless, of course, you are proposing that having RU controlling the EU gas and oil supply a good thing?