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[–] [email protected] 132 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (153 children)

Yeah, but because amongst all those people killed by the Israeli army in the very place they told them to shelter, there isn't a nice looking western girl with glamour pictures on social networks, the murder of those people will never cause the same disgust in the West as the plight of the girl kidnapped by Hamas which has been turned into a constantly repeated Israeli propaganda piece (you can tell it's now being pushed as propaganda because it's been repeated well beyond its newsworthiness and always with the same glamour picture).

The gapping chasm in numbers between those murdered by Israel and those by Hamas is inverted in terms of the disgust they cause in the West exactly because Israeli has a vastly superior propaganda machine.

Thinking people would start wondering why, reliably, 100s of murdered palestinians are portrayed with less emphasys than 1 kidnapped israeli-german teenager.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (19 children)

War is horrible and the granparents of today's Palestinians were unjustly hunted and hurt. But if Hamas had not gone on slaughter spree on civilians and their fighters would not be hiding behind their their own kids and women to protect themselves from retaliation, maybe the fight would take place strictly between combatants or even better, on the social media and internet to show what's wrong.
And no, it doesn't matter whether kid is EU, Arabian or any other looking. When there was earthquake not long ago, everyone was sympathetic with middle east looking kids being pulled out of debris.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (7 children)

There's been an earthquake just a few days ago in Afghanistan, Pakistan etc, killing more than 2000 people, and by your comment I can see you don't even know about it.

And I was arguing against Hamas immediately after it happened, but now I'm arguing against Israel because the original comment is right, they have now adjusted all their propaganda tools to use the events to justify ethnic cleansing with lots of civilian dead right now.

Gazan women and children are not responsible for "their fighters" or Hamas, just as Israeli women and children are not responsible for bombs falling on Gaza.

I'm disgusted with both, but proportionally to their strength.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

just as Israeli women

They could be part of IDF as military service is mandatory for every israeli whatever the gender (~3y for men and 2y for women).

so don't speak in term of gender but in term of class.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Strictly speaking, there are very few women in the combat units of the IDF.

But yes, you understood me correctly. I meant civilians.

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