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Explain logic to me (lemmy.ml)
submitted 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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Hi. So the weirdest, most annoying argument I've had just happened. Some alt-righter's logic was "Well, if I use this obscene word a lot, then i'm using it liberally, and if enough people hear it, then thAt's PRoGREssive" Dafuq crack are you smoking bro? Using hate speech/profanities/obscenities is neither liberal or progressive. Am I wrong? Explain this warped logic to me? Chuds are quite illogical. Also, I'm a bit buzzed and I can make more sense than a right-wing chud.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 3 years ago

Are you suggesting only white people are racist and bigoted? I have no idea where you reside, but here in France, racism and bigotry is not just a white thing. It used to be more so a few decades back when there was a stronger revolutionary antiracist movement.

Also, i didn't downvote because i agree with your sentiment that whiteness is hard to dismantle, but i should still point out that your comment is an essentialist bigoted argument. Sure it's aimed at white people so it's not racist: anti-white resentment is a thing, but there is no structural racism against white people.

However, essentialist constructs is precisely what we're trying to dismantle in the cis-hetero patriarchal, white-supremacist capitalist society. I agree to struggle by any means necessary, but producing new identity boxes to stuff people in by force is not struggling against oppression, it's in fact very much reinforcing oppression.

We need more radical politics. Let's go to the roots of oppression. Goodthinking liberal "who's more oppressed" game of identity politics is not intersectionality, as intersectionality is precisely about recognizing that oppression is neither a binary nor a linear measure, but rather an intricate chaos of interfering factors.

Intersectionality is acknowledging that whatever oppresses you and me right now, only by struggling together we can dismantle all systems of domination. Or put another way:

if you have come here to help me, you are wasting your time. But if you have come because your liberation is bound up with mine, then let us work together. (Lilla Watson)

Please try to assume good faith from the original poster next time. It's ok to ask tough questions, but don't automatically assume bad faith from someone asking questions themself.

Greetings from a fellow (white) enby!