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XMPP or Matrix which one is more safe? (lemmy.ml)

submitted 3 years ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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I think XMPP.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (2 children)

I guess you made a typo and mean XMPP. But getting e2ee working on XMPP is also super seamless and easy when using the Android Conversations client or one of it's forks. On Matrix it is also only super easy and seamless with one client, i.e. the webbased Element.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 years ago (2 children)

Corrected the sentence. I last used XMPP with Conversations on mobile and Movim on the web about 3 to 4 years ago. Many of my contact had hard time enabling e2ee. I had to visit them to walk them thru the trust process. Other wise, the would just see scrambled text.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 years ago

This is no longer the case for Conversations, it works super seamless out of the box.

Sadly Movim only very recently added experimental e2ee and it isn't fully usable yet. But I am hopeful that it will be in a few months.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 years ago

I use Monocles Chat, a fork of blabber.im, which is a fork of Conversations.

OMEMO encryption works by default, and (for me) was a little bit more seamless than setting it up for Element.

Element has a slightly awkward "verification" process, and also the backing up of encryption keys, and verifying other devices, just tends to confuse new users (imo).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 years ago

only super easy and seamless with one client, i.e. the webbased Element

But the Webbased client's security model is simply broken. E2EE in the browser is simply not possible.