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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 children)

The “authoritarian state hell” you talk about lifted over a billion people out of abject poverty

It did not! Only after turning to market-based approaches did that partially happen (and thus abolishing the authoritarian state hell), before that it made the suffering much worse by starting a civil war and afterwards doing their "great leap" causing millions to starve to death. You can not glance over facts like that, and doing so is highly dishonest.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 years ago (1 children)

That's just more nonsense since none of the core industry was ever privatized or left up to the markets. You are as ignorant as you're bullheaded.

Also, imagine being so historically illiterate to claim that communists in China made "suffering much worse. This is presumably what you're referring to.

And what else is there to tell you if you can't even understand how Walmart example is relevant to the discussion of whether centralization is effective or not.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 years ago (1 children)

Uhmm, did you actually look at the graphs on that paper you just linked? It clearly shows extremely high levels of infant mortality during the civil war period and another big spike during the "great leap" period, both of which were the result of the CCP trying to enforce their authoritarian idea of a state.

Afterwards it slowly declines with the enacting of market-based policies... which exactly supports the argument I am trying to make.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 years ago

If you can't even understand the concept of trends, what else is there to say really.