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Curious to hear what people thoughts are on session a privacy orientated messaging app https://getsession.org/

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 years ago (3 children)

Still centralized, not self hostable, so subject to a lot of the same problems. Matrix or xmpp have this problem solved.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 years ago

afaik it is more decentralized than Signal, and you can run a server. It uses some block chain crypto network for onion routing or something like that, but to host your own node it seems like you have to buy in. I was reading about it some days ago.

The way they have it set up, they say that the prohibitive cost of buying out the network would prevent anyone from doing so, but I'm sure they're secretly hoping some government will try to take it over so they can get rich.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 years ago (1 children)

Just wanted to point out this bullet point on Session's website:

Censorship resistant: With no central point of failure, it's harder to shut Session down.

Wouldn't their server be a central point of failure?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 years ago (1 children)

Is not a server, is a network of service nodes but almost all of them are in the same country.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 years ago

That's a bit better, I suppose, but if all of the nodes are in one country, then potentially the network is one poorly written law away from being shut down. They should probably branch out to other countries just in case.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 years ago (1 children)

xmpp

Just setup a self hosted server. My family are now all chatting on it. Works great and simple to use.

Matrix is an overhead mess, from what people have advised me. Avoid.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 years ago (1 children)

*Synapse is a mess

The Matrix protocol is certainly more complex than XMPP, but I think a lot of bad fame comes from Synapse being big, bulky and complicated.