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Are centrists and independents lumped together? I call myself an independent because I'm tired of the bs of both sides. Both sides do have great things to offer, and dumbasses at the same time. But, for clarity, I don't take a middle ground stance on most things, I have varied opinions that bounce from side to side.
I think independent should just mean "not affiliated with a party."
Which it does. In most parts of the world. Also I've seen right party(Yabloko) nominate left candidate, and I've seen literal communist party nominate right candidate. Buuuut all those candidates are anti-Putin, so it doesn't count.
"Both sides have great things to offer" is a bad take when one side is openly courting Nazis.
You can't make generalizations about entire groups of people. That's very counterproductive. Yes, some people on that side are with the Nazis and they rightly deserve to eat shit. Not everyone who is conservative or right wing or whatever is an asshole shit head nazi sympathizer. Grow up.
Ah yes, the "ping-pong" side... /jk
You have varied opinions because the "sides" are fake, they're made up from opinions on dozens of different axes pre-packaged for easy vote collection.
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Not necessarily. An independent just doesnt side with a party (not to be confused with the independant party). An independant can have some slight preference to a side but it doesnt necessarily guarantee said side would get a vote.
That's what I was thinking, but then I didn't really know how to categorize centrism. I feel like they're pretty similar, but have to have some sort of distinction. I suppose I must consult the Google.
On Lemmy, you will absolutely be seen as "the other side" by many extreme left folks when you broadcast this.
I'm also independent, though I lean a lot more left than right in the US system. This said, there a lot of far-left extremists here on Lemmy...
I'm over here gunning for something resembling democratic socialism, and 5/6 comments around me want to weaponize the prolitareat and burn society down so they can some-crazy-how rebuild the socialist utopia from Star Trek overnight.
"Both sides" are absolutely not the same... But they are both pretty delusional when you get into their most extreme examples. They both think they know exactly what's best for everyone (just like the original meme that started this thread clearly exhibits.)
I'm right there with you, honestly.
It's very possibel that there's just legitimate nuance to those policies and criticisms that you may have interpreted as prescriptive rather than descriptive.