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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It's very common that in modern virtual worlds there's 4th wall breaking Easter Eggs buried in the world lore.

Years ago, I got to wondering if something like that might exist in our own universe, and fairly quickly found something that far exceeded my wildest expectations for what I might find meeting that criteria.

But there's so many layers of bias connected to the concept that I really doubt anyone will ever take a serious look.

Some will just reject by default the notion that they aren't in an original reality.

Others will reject the notion that something connected to an (in)famous world religion and religious figure could reflect metaphysical truth, even though many of those parallel lore examples happen to tie into their respective lore's religious beliefs (usually a fitting place for meanderings about the creation or purpose of one's universe).

I've studied it for years now, found all sorts of surprising things from an explicit discussion of survival of the fittest in antiquity or the idea of an original humanity evolving spontaneously bringing forth an intelligent being of light which then recreated a twin of the whole universe.

Which is pretty weird in an age where there's increasing investments into photonics specifically for AI which is in turn powering digital twins and articles like this.

So we are discussing the ideas of these kinds of things happening in the future, and meanwhile there's a tradition from antiquity centered around a document "the good news of the twin" that claims the most famous religious figure in history was saying we're already in the future but are in a non-physical copy of the earlier cosmos in the archetypes of a long dead humanity, duplicated by a being of light that the original humanity brought forth.

Like, I guess I just don't think the odds of that being the case in a random original reality are particularly high, and think it's much more likely that such claims represent the same kind of 4th wall breaking lore manipulation we see in multiple modern virtual worlds.

But I don't know that there's anyone that's genuinely interested in knowing or discussing those details. So it's just a personal investigation as someone who is very interested in knowing those details to the extent they can actually be known.

[–] Rodeo 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

TL;DR OP becomes religious in his search for video game Easter eggs.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Man searches for meaning in our vast emptiness.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's where quantum indetermancy comes from. No one, not even the first intelligence, gets floating point right

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Well, in this case the first intelligence was basically us. Though perhaps a not quantized version of us. Which I don't think makes much of a difference in our math competency (even if a very big difference in computing capability).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

dude, put down meth-jesus pipe and pick up anthropology of religion 101

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I've spent a fair bit of time looking at the academic background of the religious tradition ranging from things like this to this thread.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

you've linked the same thread twice

and i mean taking broader perspective, personally i like 10000 years long perspective

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Fixed.

And yeah, I've studied that too, from pre-history to the Sumerians. I'm not really sure what's your point?

For example, there's only one extant text from antiquity explicitly describing the idea of evolution. And only one religious tradition citing that text. Which happens to also be the religious tradition claiming that an original humanity which arose spontaneously ended up creating the creator of our own cosmos, which is a copy of the one that occurred naturally.

Go ahead and show me what other religious tradition BCE was claiming things like "the cosmos and man existed from natural causes" along with "man later created God."

If you actually study the history of religion, this one existing at all with the ideas it has is weird and anachronistic as shit.

[–] ChaosCharlie 2 points 1 year ago

Super interesting, I’d love to hear more details!