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I will say that /r/Saints sub isn't as delusional for a several reasons. There are definitely some crazies like you mentioned, but nowhere close to how bad it is here.
He wasn't drafted there so there isn't that much "home grown" love.
Lack of Fresno alumni fans (many of them happened to be Raiders fan due to proximity to Oakland who love him to death)
They don't have a "great year" with Carr that the fanbase is fixated with
They actually have recent memory of what a HoF QB is supposed to play like
They already saw how a middling QB plays with Dalton last year and have a reference point of what average QB play is like so they don't get easily enthralled with it unlike Raiders fans who have seen trash for nearly 20 years
Oh yeah, should have specified that it’s hilarious to see the common r/raiders Stans go into the saints subreddit or still cape for him in nfl
But all your points are incredibly cogent, especially 4 & 5.