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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (9 children)

I really wanna support these folks but I'm also curious about the recent headlines with Cameron Ortis (Canada's own selfish version of Snowden who deserves a damn Peace Prize for reals) referencing these.

Also, I think people need to learn there is nothing "private" about email beyond not scanning which is like paying for a not-service (like don't fuck me over). Hell, its hard enough to work up the courage and stamina to vanishing-messages-set someone adversarial who desperately needs you to make and ebforce that decision upon them as a baseline for engaging with them at all.

I will pay $1/month for email company to not be an asshole but that's the extent of my patience with the notion and I have zero illusions about what is likely still happening on some level.

Edit: Snowden deserves reward, not Ortis.

Edit: whats the timeline/continuity in terms of Ortis' mention and Tutanota rebranding to Tuta

[–] Swim 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Proton is doing privacy the right way.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

Proton lost me when I found out you can't receive notifications from their app on a de-googled phone. Their app requires Google services for notifications. Since then I've moved to Tuta and am very happy with the service and notifications work. I mean how hard is it to set up a new email check every half hour in the app. What's the point of private email when you have to run it on a spyware (Google) infested phone.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Can you share more about why you think Proton's approach is better than Tuta?

From a casual read through they both appear to use end to end encryption when users are on the same service. (Proton emailing Proton or Tuta emailing Tuta) and both offer the option to password encrypt an email so you can message someone on other services as long as you can share that password with them IRL somehow.

[–] Swim 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Along with what has already been said, for the same package deal they offer an email, a vpn, a password manager, drive, and alot more space than the competition (500gig).

they include services such as proton sentinel.

https://proton.me/blog/sentinel-high-security-program

and secure core

https://protonvpn.com/support/secure-core-vpn/

one of the few still allowing port forwarding

https://protonvpn.com/support/port-forwarding/

how to use them in high risk countries

https://protonvpn.com/blog/vpn-servers-high-risk-countries/

development over the years and their dedication to bringing privacy, security, freedom of information to the masses speaks for itself.

Encrypt the planet

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