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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (5 children)

The part I don't understand is why it's important to hit the "replacement level". Wouldn't it be better for the planet if there were fewer people living on it and competing for resources?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

but then the megacorporations can't hit their iNfInItE gRoWtH and we can't keep making the billionaires richer.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

If there's less people than jobs it's easier to ask for better wages.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The Ponzi scheme, that is American “social security” (I mean actual social security, but all the rest of the social services too), would collapse if there arent more poor people pumping money into, than are taking out of it. Instead of doing shit like taxing the fuck out of the rich, or AI/robots.

But, yes, it would solve A LOT of the worlds problems if there were less people.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

To be fair, I don't think taxing robots will get you far...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How do you figure. If the workforce becomes by and large robotic, taxing the businesses, based on that, like you would humans, would work well enough. If not, then there needs to be some concession from businesses to pay the same or more as when humans were doing the jobs.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm moreso being cheeky about your wording - robots don't own cash, thus can't pay taxes. You must tax businesses.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Fair enough. Lol. I meant the business that own the robots.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

@AnnaPlusPlus

Consider the number of financial instruments that are essentially pyramid schemes built on the assumption of perpetual growth.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Its all of them

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It would be, but the economy was built on perpetual growth schemes.
Don't forget, the economy is here to be served by us, not the other way around!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The economy will crumble if we don't get to replacement levels at least, but it will also crumble, along with everything else if we do. Only way out of this is to change the whole model before it crumbles. But that would mean the rich need to get (willingly) less rich, so I'm not holding out hope...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

There's plenty of poor people who've bought into the propaganda and refuse to sign on even if it'd help them.