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I noticed there wasn't a TST Lemmy community. The Satanic Temple is a modern satanic religion that aims to promote human rights and compassion. Check out their about page on their official website at https://thesatanictemple.com/pages/about-us. Note that this community is not an official affiliation. TST is also separate and not affiliated with the Church of Satan, who have a slightly different viewpoint of what satanism truly is. Dunno what to post in here, but maybe some will search for this and take part. Hello!
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Iâm not a satanist. Though I fully support the causes these people are behind. But I have a few questions for you.
So when I was 5 my mom kidnapped me and ran away to Florida with me. We were in church every time those doors were open. Unfortunately all the prayers in the world still didnât help her get her insulin. I watched her wither and die SLOWLY. I was 8.
Where was god?
After her death. I moved back in with my dad where a neighbor began to sexually abuse me for a few years. My dad made sure we went to church every Sunday. It was my momâs dying wish.
Where was god? Was I not good enough? Did I not pray hard enough?
I still remember the moment I realized that god doesnât exist. It was night time and we had a trampoline in the backyard. I was standing next to it looking up at the stars. My breath still smelled like him. I was 10.
So, I may not know much, but I know that your god either doesnât exist or let those things and more happen. If thatâs the case. I want nothing to do with him.
"If God real why bad thing happen?"
I already know atheism is usually out of blaming God for personal and traumatic experiences, butbthat won't automatically mean satanism doesn't follow the devil
Itâs the simplest of logic. If I claim to have magic flying powers. Then I jump off a building and fall to my death. Youâd say I was lying.
Likewise if people tell me that the god Ive been following is all knowing, all powerful, and compassionate. That all I have to do is be good and pray and he will watch over me.
So I do the things and he doesnât hold up his end of the bargain. Then itâs a sham. Itâs a lie. Itâs a con. Itâs bull shit.
Organizations are what they do. The church makes big claims. But follows through with none of the supernatural stuff, and very little of the material stuff like donations.
Do you know what free will is?
Free will on which end mine or âgodâsâ end? If youâre saying that âgodâ has free will to decide whether they help children or not after claiming to be compassionate. Then I have no use for a âgodâ like that.
If youâre saying that as a child I had free will in the circumstances I listed. Then just like your âgodâ you are an abhorrent piece of trash and I have no use for you either.
No, I'm saying people are free to sin, nothing will stop them in this life, but hell would almost certainly not be like hazbin hotel
Once again I just want to say that I am not a satanist. I do not speak for anyone but myself. The people here are more than capable of speaking for themselves.
But, what you said still doesnât touch the issue that we were talking about. Which is, âWhy would an all powerful all seeing âgodâ let his creations suffer?â If he is all powerful then he can keep suffering from happening. If he is all knowing then he does know the suffering is happening. So, if real, he chooses to let that suffering happen. Itâs that simple.
If youâre saying that âgodâ doesnât intervene because humans have free will. That means that âgodâ deserves no credit for anything other than creation. In that case worshipping him is the same as worshipping a mom and dad that abandoned you at birth. Which is completely insane.
Also, Iâd just like to point out that âgodâ gave zero shits about âfree willâ when it came to sodom and Gomorrah. âGod gave zero shits about free will when it came to Lot.
Now look, Iâm done. You have been backed into a corner where there is no satisfactory answer. There is no way to explain the problem in a way that is reasonable. Also, I have better things to do than argue the merits of an imaginary friend. Itâs been fun, happy holidays.
Because intervention would mean he doesn't allow free will