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[–] [email protected] 83 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I've got to wonder how your upbringing worked out when as a black and gay man you end up supporting trump. Over basically any alternative, including never voting and/or leaving the country entrirely. Both still far preferrable to subjecting yourself to the existential torture that is this, as per the article.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

People are really good at supporting ideas that harm themselves.

Just see any country and any election ever. Hopefully they don't win but you will always have a significant minority wanting to create a shithole for everyone themselves included.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When I see someone who is LGBT+ and or a minority support trump it reminds me of of the Association of German National Jews who supported Hitler before he got elected.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

it reminds me of of the Association of German National Jews

In other words, the people who did Ben Shapiro long before Ben Shapiro.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We call them - cynical jesters.

They offer no resolution, no recourse and no route to better ideas. It's just "My life sucks so because that my life sucks, I want everyone else's life to suck so I will make it so."

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Ah the “I hate Mondays” philosophy. I swear Ian Danskin has done so much to help me understand the far right.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've met people like that and they're all insufferable edge lords. Trump is a contrarian and to them contrary is correct.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

I find that's often true, contrarians that wrap their identity around being the devil's advocate or "changing things from the inside." Bro... You're not intelligent, you're an asshole.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

So gut instinct: he’s probably a misogynist first and black and gay come after that. It may not be correct but holy hell as a lesbian it describes a lot of the gay male conservatives I’ve met.

The more nuanced potential is that people don’t like being put into boxes or perfectly matching stereotypes. Additionally many people can’t read between lines even when it’s obvious. Trump went very hard against immigrants and Black Lives Matter protesters, and he has white supremacists supporting him and a history of anti black prejudices, but he’s never said that he hates black people. Similarly he’s ranted and raved about trans people, and he allies with people who hate gay people, but his words are not explicitly against cis gay people. So if he wanted to be willfully ignorant to declare himself as the special good one who won’t be boxed in by your preconceived notions of what he should be, all he has to do is not read the obvious messages between the lines and hope they go away.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

If I had to guess it's money.