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[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 3 years ago (1 children)

Of course the strategy changes.

If one corporation would produce 100% of emissions you would be able to discuss how to wind it down. How to manage the impact of winding it down.

Instead we are talking about whether you, the singular you, wasted too much water having a shower.

This is absolutely absurd.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 3 years ago (1 children)

this is a false dichotomy, of course many problems have to be fixed on the supply side, but a lot have to also be fixed on the consumer side, for example animal product consumption: no matter how you restructure corporations, earth simply doesn't have enough resources in order sustain an omnivore diet for more than a few hundred million people

the 100 - 70 gotcha points out a valid problem, while also for some reason disregarding the other side of that problem ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 3 years ago (1 children)

Consumers wouldn't be using single use plastics if corporations didn't push it on everyone.

How about stuff like milk cartons that added a plastic cap to the cardboard? It always worked fine opening the cardboard top and I would always use it up long before it spoiled. The plastic added nothing to the shelf life and just created more waste. Now every carton like that has a plastic cap.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 3 years ago (1 children)

i agree, you listed problems that should be fixed on the supply side, this doesn't mean there aren't problems that should be fixed on the consumer side ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 3 years ago (1 children)

Oh yeah because consumers can economically recycle plastics, right.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 3 years ago (1 children)

consumers can't recycle plastics, nobody can, there are problems that cannot be fixed on the supply side, and single use plastics isn't one of them

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 3 years ago (1 children)

So how is it the consumers responsibility?

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 3 years ago (1 children)

single use plastics isn't a consumer responsibility, i'm simply pointing out that there exist things that are indeed a responsibility of consumers to fix

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 3 years ago (1 children)
[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 3 years ago

like not eating animal products ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ